“Budget maniacs, the real national security threat”

Nicholas Kristof:

IF China or Iran threatened our national credit rating and tried to drive up our interest rates, or if they sought to damage our education system, we would erupt in outrage.

Well, wake up to the national security threat. Only it’s not coming from abroad, but from our own domestic extremists.

We tend to think of national security narrowly as the risk of a military or terrorist attack. But national security is about protecting our people and our national strength — and the blunt truth is that the biggest threat to America’s national security this summer doesn’t come from China, Iran or any other foreign power. It comes from budget machinations, and budget maniacs, at home.

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While one danger to national security comes from the risk of default, another comes from overzealous budget cuts — especially in education, at the local, state and national levels. When we cut to the education bone, we’re not preserving our future but undermining it.

It should be a national disgrace that the United States government has eliminated spending for major literacy programs in the last few months, with scarcely a murmur of dissent.

Consider Reading Is Fundamental, a 45-year-old nonprofit program that has cost the federal government only $25 million annually. It’s a public-private partnership with 400,000 volunteers, and it puts books in the hands of low-income children. The program helped four million American children improve their reading skills last year. Now it has lost all federal support.

“They have made a real difference for millions of kids,” Kyle Zimmer, founder of First Book, another literacy program that I’ve admired, said of Reading Is Fundamental. “It is a tremendous loss that their federal support has been cut. We are going to pay for these cuts in education for generations.”

Education programs like these aren’t quick fixes, and the relation between spending and outcomes is uncertain and complex. Nurturing reading skills is a slog rather than a sprint — but without universal literacy we have no hope of spreading opportunity, fighting crime or chipping away at poverty.

“The attack on literacy programs reflects a broader assault on education programs,” said Rosa DeLauro, a Democratic member of Congress from Connecticut. She notes that Republicans want to cut everything from early childhood programs to Pell grants for college students. Republican proposals have singled out some 43 education programs for elimination, but it’s not seen as equally essential to end tax loopholes on hedge fund managers.

So let’s remember not only the national security risks posed by Iran and Al Qaeda. Let’s also focus on the risks, however unintentional, from domestic zealots.

 

 

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120 thoughts on ““Budget maniacs, the real national security threat”

  1. Good morning! We should get the last plan before the markets open in Asia this afternoon. Brace yourselves.

  2. Well said and well served up Mr Kristof! Happy Sinday to BWD and the family.
    May the coming week have the pysche alert, well tuned,positive and rearing to go. Keep the faith!..and don’t let ‘anyone of them’ get to you. Blessings..

  3. What do you mean? Of course it is intentional what the Teathugs are trying to do. It is OPEN and UNMISTAKABLE TREASON!!

  4. Where is everyone? Traffic is really slow this morning on BWD and TOD. We must not retreat into a little hole. We must not be AFRAID of the TREASONIST House of Representatives. We must stand behind the president and support him through this national CRISIS. Because it is a CRISIS. This is bordering on the same path as the Southern States succeeding from the Union before the Civil War. STAND UP OBAMABOTS and FIGHT DOMESTIC TERRORISM!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

  5. Disturbibg…and predictable (actions of the GOPTea). Somethying else predictable: the PL outrage at Obama when this thing is resolved. The script can be written already.

    Obama/Biden 2012

  6. And comments from GOPTea prez candidates regarding the current crisis…crickets…chrip…chirp…chirp…

  7. Good and important column pointing out these specific issues with the GOP hostage plan but the very last word in the column is inconsistent with the rest. Too bad Kristof didn’t correcty write “terrorist” instead of “zealot”.

    “So let’s remember not only the national security risks posed by Iran and Al Qaeda. Let’s also focus on the risks, however unintentional, from domestic zealots.”

  8. BWD, I apologize for repposting what I posted on an earlier thread.

    Hey good Pep’s, do not think it strange when the MSM and Rethugs began to attack the last 4 mins of that press conference. The one thing they do ( as much as I hate to emit) is message well. However, we have to be on the offense in spreading PBO’s message.

    They are going to come with what is known as the “Orwelllian Misdirect” (black is white, up is down, etc.) They always attack the most strongest point of a person (not the weakest) to misdirect the conversation.

    The Last 4 mins of what President Obama said is the most powerful conversation to the nation that has not happen since FDR.

    Let’s make sure we stay in control of PBO’s conversation. Thanks BWD for all you do!!

  9. The Prez has an army of followers on twitter and facebook. I wish they could all just send a tweet to Boehner and a tweet to McConnell…the traffic would so huge, it would crash both of their servers. Tell these idiots to free the country from Norquist’s hostage. How did one man become so powerful, he has now literally paralyzed the entire system? People need to wake up. The fight the Prez is involved will determine whether Americans and their country are enslaved by the monied few or they will live as a free people in a free Republic. You can see and hear this message in the 4 minute clip of the Prez’s presser and as Bob encapsulates the entire epic battle in the tweet sent to the Prez on the previous thread. Guys tweet like crazy, call or email so these thugs know the Prez has his back covered.

  10. Has anyone heard anything more about some solution being proposed about a “Super Congress”. The story originated on Huffpo but so far only a couple of blogs are discussing this early. I won’t link Huffpo here but here is a little excerpt from the article I found at another site:

    ‘Super Congress’: Debt Ceiling Negotiators Aim To Create New Legislative Body
    Published on July 24, 2011 by luckee1 Thanks to Intelhub for the tip

    WASHINGTON — Debt ceiling negotiators think they’ve hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public’s unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.

    This “Super Congress,” composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers — six from each chamber and six from each party.

    Legislation approved by the Super Congress — which some on Capitol Hill are calling the “super committee” — would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn’t be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who’d have the ability only to cast an up or down vote.

    The concept leaves me speechless. Isn’t this unconstituttional?

  11. I realize that until “something” gets signed, sealed, and delivered that anything that is discussed is speculation and rumours…….but…..I would like for someone to explain to me how I, as a senior widow still working at a low paying job(that I am grateful for), dependent on SS and Medicare, that still has a mortgage, and that has Grandchildren in public schools, am suppose to sleep at night now that the only person in these negotiations, that I trust to look out for my welfare, is no longer included in the negotiations….obviously you know I am referring to PBO.

  12. OK we need to win the House, Senat and presidency in 2012 or ugly won’t begin to describe life in the U.S. So if must win then 800 billion in revenue increases now will work and we can get the other 400 billion or more when we control both Houses in 2012. Right?

    markknoller Mark Knoller
    But Boehner says his last offer of $800-billion in tax revenues linked to entitlement reform and other spending cuts “is still out there.”

  13. Maybe because it’s Sunday that people are a bit slow in general – waking up late, have family over, visiting family, preparing for work on Monday etc., etc. I suspect things will kick in later in the day.

  14. He’s definitely 100% involved and will need to approve any deal. He met with all of them yesterday and Reid and Pelosi need to get his ok on any proposal. No worries there.

  15. I try to keep remembering that he said in the presser that he would take the responsibility and sign off on the debt ceiling increase himself if he had to. I trust him to do that.

  16. They would name that Super Congress, Dictatorship Congress, because that is what it is, and we the people sitting around and do nothing as usual.

  17. Sorry for the bad language, but FRACK NO!!! There should be and will not be a so called “Super Congress!!!” My God, can you imagine what would happen with a Super Congress if we had a repug president with a good majority in the house?! No, No, No, No, No. Harry Reid needs to sit his butt down! I understand what he’s trying to do, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. No. Just give PBO the right to pass the debt ceiling and then he will fight his own battles with the psychopaths in the House. We have lived 235 years without a so called ‘Super Congress’, it’s the last darned thing we need. It’s also unconstitutional like you wondered. :x What could Harry have been thinking?! I hope this is just drivel. I hope it’s just stupid speculation on the part of the writer (s)

  18. Interesting times. IMO this is necessitated by the fact that the GOP on a national level has pretty much ceased to function as a political party. This is not the last generation’s Republican party; these. The professional left may attempt to muddy the waters and obscure reality in the media, but fact of the matter is that there are people who are fundamentally at odds with the notion of a Democratic Republic, who now hold a great deal of power with respect to federal law. Thank God for POTUS and I’m praying for the US of A.

  19. President Obama is not about to let down Americans. Of that I’m certain. Some members of the GOP are crazy, but POTUS has grey hairs fighting for this country, and he’s not about to stop now. He’s VERY involved in the negotiations in my speculation.

  20. My comment is awaitng moderation? But yet it posted? That’s odd…

    Oh well. Off to walk across the sun. It’s still in the 100s on a daily basis here in Philadelphia. But I gotta get out of the house.

    Peace

  21. In case you missed this the other day, the opening paragraph:

    The news is dominated by the deficit talks in Washington right now. Simply put, the Republicans want to close the gap through cuts only, Democrats want to do it with a combination of cuts and revenue, and Tea Partiers want to do it through a combination of prayer and some type of mayonnaise “glaze.” If you don’t quite understand it all, you’re not alone. Here’s an exercise to help you visualize the biggest issue “inside the Beltway,” as they say inside the Beltway, the Beltway being an actual leather belt originally worn by President Taft that stretches around Washington, DC: Imagine you’re a politician. (Sorry to do that to you; it’ll be over quickly.) Now picture a pile of money that your citizens earned from their “jobs.” It’ll need to be a really big pile of money that stretches from California all the way to Maine. Man, I bet it would smell good, don’t you? Money has one of those smells, like gasoline or a freshly paved road, where you just want to sniff it so hard you pass out. In fact, most cocaine addicts don’t even like cocaine, they just use it as an excuse to put dollar bills up their nose.

    Read the rest at Vice Magazine: TAKE A STROLL… WITH ROB DELANEY – DEBT CEILINGS, DEBT FEELINGS – Viceland Today

    Read the rest here:
    http://www.robdelaney.com/

  22. What time do the Asian markets open? We’ll just have to wait. There is no deal unless And until the President announces it.

    On a totally unrelated note, the President is picking up Facebook followers fast. I hope that’s a good indicator of support.

  23. markknoller Mark Knoller
    Daley said Obama and Boehner had about 85% agreement on a deficit/debt limit plan when Boehner walked away.

  24. markknoller Mark Knoller
    WH Chief of Staff Bill Daley says Pres Obama could embrace a 2 step debt limit plan – but not a short-term first step.
    6 minutes ago

  25. I’m getting read to leave out for church now. I will visit later folks on one of my breaks from work. PEACE and TRANQUILITY!! :)

  26. You hear only crickets, because the GOPer Prez candidates are waiting for the outcome of this debacle so they can choose a meme/talking point/stump speech to ride on. So obvious and plain incompetent. No way we can allow one of these clowns to unseat President Obama. Obama/Biden 2012!!

  27. Excellent analysis of the infamous Rovian TACTICS. It worked to perfection vs John Kerry in 2004. They had the majority of the nation believing in the Swift Boat CRAP when in acutality John Kerry was a WAR hero. We must not let the same happen to PBO. We must fight back the MSM lies and distortions. Folks this is only the begining and we are still a little over 15mos away from the election. KEEP HOPE ALIVE!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

  28. Off to my NOON Church services ya’ll, Peace. Going to be another SCORCHER in the heart of Buckeye Nation 96 degrees to be exact. YUK! I will be chattin with my BWD family from work later. :)

  29. BTW how can the MSM spin and re-invent what PBO discussed in the last 4 minutes of the press conference? Any sane and rational citizen can see what PBO meant in that famous last 4 minutes. We are not that DUMB!! SIMPLY MIND BOGGLING!! Those last 4 minutes are already legendary and will be a calling card for Progressive generations to come. Heck it will be a part of history books. Hope the majority of Amercans have access to the internet so they can get the truth. I’m out!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

  30. My gut wouldn’t allow me to read that article. Instinct told me it was just another piece of inflammatory speculation. There’s a lot of that flying around now. Have people noticed that the hair-on-fire set aren’t whining about cuts to medicare and SS since the White House released the negotiation notes? Now everyone and his uncle has a theory on what the next ‘plan’ is going to look like or what the next ‘threat’ to world stability is. In a way it’s refreshing to see the focus back on Congress where it belongs. But it seems like the end-timers have taken over the narrative as a result.

  31. Well, under normal circumstances the only involvement the President would have is writing a letter to Congress requesting they raise the debt ceiling. Then it would get done as a matter of form. It was Congress who brought this fight and insisted that the President be involved (Lead) the negotiations. The White House is rarely that openly and heavily involved in the negotiations for the passage of a Bill. That’s the job of Congress. Under normal circumstances, any deal that gets hammered out to pass any Bill gets done without the President anyway. So from my perspective, Congress is finally doing what it was supposed to do in the first place. They know exactly what the President will or will not sign. They don’t require his input anymore.

  32. I see the Tea Party as being primarily an attack on the educated by the undereducated. They are a visceral response to the intelligence of our current President, and a defense of the clearly mentally deficient characters they have been electing or promoting for President and electing to Congress. This is not just people who think there is elitism in being from Harvard. They believe there is elitism by anyone who holds more than a GED.

    You see, some people can actually prosper despite a lack of education. Social skills count for much in our society. So do family contacts, hard work, and a willingness to bend the rules. What we have running the Tea Party (which is now half the GOP) is a movement by those without education, who don’t value it personally, to deprive those who do of the fruits of our achievements. Why? Because a growing percentage of government workers need to have a college degree to perform their jobs. At least anything above clerical work or highway department laborers. The result is that those who work in the private sector seem to think they are subsidizing the lifestyles of college educated public employees.

    These are, after all, people who already feel like society considers them stupid, as underachievers, and as unworthy of positions in government. People who cannot pass a Post Office Civil Service Exam are deciding “Well, heck, I’ll just run for elected office and show them who is the boss”. As a result, we get people in charge who deeply resent most of the people in the governments they manage.

    We on this board clearly value education. We understand the importance to the future of our children and of our nation as a whole. We continue to look for “reasons” for the behavior of the Tea Party, for it to “make sense”. Well, I believe it only makes sense from the perspective of a person who has spent their lives sitting in the back of the class, watching others get accolades and attention, while they are left to manage their way in an economy that chooses the educated first. But, since people can get a job and feed a family without a college education, Human Ego drives them decide they are better than the rest after all. And they declare civic war on us, our values, and our position in society.
    Consider the seeming all out attacks on public school teachers nationwide. In what other era would school teachers be held in such disregard?

    This is the heart of the movement against us. Ego driven, emotional resentment of all things related to the world of the educated. Where we go from here is not at all clear. But I suspect “outreach” to “raise consciousness” of these people is a strategy doomed to backfire. They don’t want our attempts to help them. They want us to get out of the way so the nation can return to a time when a humble immigrant or son of a farmer could stake out 40 acres in the wilderness and make himself a living. Modern times are leaving such people behind and yet, we need to have a means for the bottom half of the class to prosper.

    Instead, there are those among them who will instantly vote against anything a Democrat says simply because a Democrat said it. I submit that 50% of the opposition to the concept of global warming came from the fact that Al Gore advocated it. The other 50% because scientists advocated it. With a market like this, opportunistic politicians fan the flames of resentment and get people to “vote against their interests”. How? Because their interests in taking down the educated trump their interests in sorting out the implications of complex budgetary theories. They are not sheep. They are a pitchfork wielding mob that fears what it does not understand and especially hates those who calmly navigate a complex world – the educated.

    I wish I had a solution to offer at the bottom of this musing. But in an effort to find understanding and reasons for the current budget impasse i find myself realizing that we do not suffer from class war in the this country in the rich v. poor sense nearly so much as we suffer from a class war in the Phd v. GED sense.

  33. We it now more than ever. Either that or huddling with their financial advisors looking for a way to survive the Default of 2011.

  34. A concept killed by choice of name alone. I don’t want this phony debt ceiling fight to suddenly morph into the Burning of the Reichstag and we end up losing our democracy over it.

    Boehner says he’s going to “cal the President’s bluff” on the debt ceiling. What is that even supposed to mean? He and his entire caucus in the House are going to go back home to run for re-election on the theme “We’re the people who brought you hyper inflation and runaway interest on your credit cards!” Besides, I don’t think PBO bluffs. He does not want to use the 14th Amendment option until he has no choice because the markets may not think it solves the problem in the eyes of the markets, and if the Supremes don’t agree then he has no fallback. But Boehner has nothing. Eventually, when Wall Street decides to draw up a list of candidates to boycott the point will be made.

    I always felt this thing was going to be dragged out to the very last minute for maximum theatrical value because Boehner has 60 Tea Partiers who think economic collapse is a recipe for their empowerment. They are thriving off the idea of chaos. In chaos, power can be grabbed. But the rest of the GOP has to be wondering how long this goes before they have to admit there are two adversary political parties in the country sharing the name Republican.

  35. One of the reasons I am already diversifying my investments (such as they are) out of the US and into Canada. Even Canadian government bonds. There is no telling how long this lunacy will persist and whether our economy can recover in the short time I have before retirement.

  36. How can Boehner call the President’s promise (not bluff) to veto any short-term Bill? He has to pass something that will fly in the Senate and Harry Reid is standing by the President on the no short term deal stance. Maybe he thinks Harry Reid is bluffing.

  37. I heard a Teapartier Rep from the US House interviewed by NPR yesterday morning. He was from one of the Carolinas. I would dare say he was not raising the debt ceiling due to the Norquist pledge. He was an extremist and felt we had to do something about overspending and a default would end it. He also seemed to realize the drastic consequences and didn’t care saying it had to happen at some point that we could not go on like we are. He seemed totally knowledgable about the affect not raising the debt ceiling would have on the US. It was so disheartening to hear him speak. The picture of the Freshman in Congress having their hands tied by Norquist or lack of understanding of what not raising the debt ceiling would have on us was totally broken for me. It seemed more like the Norwegian zealot extremist that went out and killed all those people to make his ideological point to me.

  38. I was wondering if that plan originated as a means to get around the teabaggers. The Repub Party is nonfunctional with these idiots holding their party and the country hostage as they refuse to agree to anything.
    It still seems like a horrible, frightening idea, creating another Congress, in effect, where a few people have all the power.
    What a disaster all this is and so unnecessary. It is nonsensical that such a small minority of fanatics, lacking decency and even a speck of common sense, is able to bring this country to the brink.

  39. So well said. I’m certain that what you said is part of the problem. “Elites are not welcomed”…

  40. In actuality the Congress (House of Reps) is responsible to start this process followed by the Senate and then it is to be either signed or vetoed by the President. The GOP has been holloring for the President to get involved with the negotiations before he is officially supposed to. Then Boehner paints it like he cannot work with the President because he is full of tricks and political rhetoric so he has to walk away and solve this on his own with Congress where it should have taken place to begin with. This was planned for theatrics only I am not so sure if letting it go this long will work. The GOP would love to have PBO veto their plan to save the nation. I hope this political theater does not work. I do want the debt ceiling raised though. You notice how Pelosi and Reid were not included in today’s meetings?

  41. May I share with you that, in my opinion, the repugs have gone fekking bat-shite insane? Just an observation from over here.
    All we need is for the Asian markets to open and have countries like Iran, Venezuela, etc start dumping US Treasuries. If China were to follow, and I don’t think they would, it would all be over in minutes.
    Super-congresses, indeed. I sneer at the republicans.

  42. Frightening. The Koch Bros and conservative think tanks are dictating policy in the Repub Party. I heard someone say that the Heritage Foundation sent out a missive to all Repubs referencing “The Bridge on the River Kwai”, urging them to “burn it down”, “blow it up”, do not compromise. It seems like there should be a remedy for this craziness, that these few nuts should not be able to bring everything to a halt, to cause this much damage.

  43. Hi and happy Sanday to all, I was just wondering if it’s time for a money bomb for PBO now if it’s O.K with BWD just thinking, at this time we have to double our efforts to back our President, and ignore the crayzy nuts on the other side. all of the are teaparty pretinding to be progresives.

  44. Yes he is , but when you listen to the MSM talking heads they want you to believe that Obama does not have a plan.

  45. “May I share with you that, in my opinion, the repugs have gone fekking bat-shite insane? Just an observation from over here.”

    From any distance your statement is fact not opinion. :)

  46. I have gotten some request by the Orange site to donate for Senator Sanders are they Fricking crazy? maybe the PL would like to joint Norqist. and they can pladge their loyalty
    to him LOL.

  47. Good morning family. reading the kristoff letter. one thing that stuck out to me. The left and the moderate right is in fear. They now see that their efforts of resisting the president have come back to haunt them. They now see that their fear of the black man was a huge mistake and now the Black president is not fearful at all, but truly love and want to make this country. They never imagined that the republicans would surrender their souls to the tea party . a extreme bigoted party who hates minorities, the poor, women, gays, and the true meaning of what this country stands for. Now the chickens are coming home and they have to stand behind and support the President who all along tried to warn them of their agenda. What they did’nt expect was the genius of President Obama ability to confront and challenge the right, they did’nt realize that he was doing alone without their help. Now they see his courage will bring this country back. The words who said on that campaign night is coming true. WE ARE THE ONES WE BEEN WAITING FOR. ITS NOT ABOUT ME, THE PRESIDENT SAID ITS ABOUT YOU.

  48. Afternoon fellow Obamabots,

    BWD thanks for postin’ this …

    It’s very interestin’ and thought-provokin’!

    Allthough it “talks” about “budget maniacs” threatenin’ national security, it also *emphasizes* that the elected TeaPublicans and their ilk “hate” anything and everything that has to do w/PUBLIC, the PUBLIC SECTOR, at local/state and federal-level…

    It isn’t just PUBLIC education. They “hate” PUBLIC workers/servant, PUBLIC transportation, PUBLIC communications (i.e., PBS, NPR), PUBLIC libraries, PUBLIC parks, PUBLIC aid, etc.

    THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ALL ABOUT JOBS, JOBS, JOBS…NOT!… http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2011/07/the-house-republicans-are-all-about-jobs-jobs-jobs.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Look how TeaPublican-elected governors ARE layin’ off state workers!

    They want to “shrink” the federal government down, small enough to “drown it in a bathtub?”

    WTH!

    If the TeaPublicans “hate” the federal/state/city govt so much, why are they public servants :?

    They “hate” themselves :?

    It “boggles the mind!”

    Or, maybe, they want to “destroy” the government from within, and then, they will PRIVATIZE everything…PROFITS over PEOPLE…Grrr! :mad:

    That’s why, by any means necessary, WE gotta VOTE ‘EM OUT and/or REPEAL/IMPEACH ‘EM & REPLACE ‘EM!

    So, let’s JUST DO IT!

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
    YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
    I’M IN…FIRED UP & GOIN’! ;)

  49. Tao, your post captures what I have been saying in very simple terms with an antidote to address this, and that is the teabaggers are a bunch of “ignorant, nasty, racist hypocrites” and the one sure antidote to addressing ignorant’s is SHAME. They must be shamed back into that rat infested, putrefied sewer in which they crawl from.

    There is no reasoning/rationalizing with such people. It does not exist know matter how much you try. SHAME is one of the most powerful remedies to address this major issue. As harsh as this sound it is one of the most effective antidotes to ignorant’s. Thanks for your post.

  50. So do not listen to them. They do not work for your interests, but for their ratings.

  51. Yes WE are…

    And, that’s why, by any means necessary, WE gotta DO SOMETHIN’ about them! ;)

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!

  52. Sounds like a conference committee at the beginning of the bill process instead of at the end. I don’t think it would be unconstitutional as conference committees are not.

  53. “…the President is picking up Facebook followers fast. I hope that’s a good indicator of support.”

    Hi Esmerelda,

    It betta be! ;) :grin:

    And, yeah, it’s all about “waitin’ and seein’!” lol

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
    YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
    I’M IN…FIRED UP & GOIN’! ;)

  54. This is great. It’s Robert Reich giving 2-minute “class” on what has happened to the economy and why there’s no money for education — or anything else.

    It’s exactly 2 minutes long. Go ahead, you have the time — and it’s so worth it. I wish this video would go viral.

  55. Mel osorio, we know better than to believe that. And those who do, we have to find a way to tell them differently. Presidnet Obama always has a plan. He is not a fool. Remember, Michelle telling us that Presidnet Obama reads everything and writes everything. She said that he had read everything report that is prepared for a meeting from top to botton before we ever walks into a meeting. She also said that he is more prepared that the presenter in that meeting. Even, Sec. State Clinton, and outgong Sec. Robert Gates stated that. Do not allow them to hoodwink any of us. Not now.

  56. Hey Keith,

    You know, some Obamabots are readin’ and/or postin’ on other ‘TOAITR’ threads…

    So, they haven’t “made” it to the new thread, yet! ;)

    Let’s keep HOPE alive!

    You have a great Sunday! :grin:

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!

  57. So today is the day of the “Boehner Deadline”, three hours in fact. But according to Benen, his demands are now worse. TWO sequences of debt ceiling extensions; in exchange for the first sequence 1 trillion in cuts/no revenue. Good grief!!

    I must say, I felt uneasy. PBO was so strong on Friday, that ironically he boxed himself into the correct corner, but is rhetorically boxed in; he can’t let Boehner the hostage taker try and knock him of the moral high ground pedestal he so eloquently ascended on Friday.

    I say I felt uneasy until now. I googled WH Communications Dan Pfeiffer’s twitter.

    FANTASTIC news so far. Following Dan in real time is like being in the room with PBO and Carney. Follow along, the news is good for our side. No backing down as of now.

    BWD, do you think you could post Pfeiffer’s twitter feed in your list, particularly today?
    So helpful/real news from the White House updated regularly.

  58. Kathryn, he is the President, and a very smart one at that. I totally understand your points regarding your situation because I have some of the same concerns, but one thing that I have followed from day one about President Obama, you do not pull fast garbage on this man. He is always a step ahead of these fools. He knows his duties, and he will fight like hell to look out for the American people. Trust him. Now, I want you to relax as much as possible, and please do not get yourself sick , please. Promise. okay. This stuff that the repugs are doing is vile, but we have a decent man in the Oval Office who knows how we are hurting. Please relax and p. Love you.

  59. Truly amazing that the “conservative” party would propose something like the “Super Congress.” It seems kind of like bringing the Simpson-Bowles process to Congress.

    I am very scared of this process for the simple reason that the Rs are so much better than the Ds at the unity thing. I can imagine the 6 Rs picking off a bad Dem that would no doubt get one of the 6 D slots. We know who some of these bad Ds are — they occupy positions of power in Congress and would be logical candidates for a seat in the 12-person Super Congress (Max Baucus, chair of the Senate Finance Comm; Kent Conrad, chair of the Senate Budget Committee, Steny Hoyer, Assist Minority Leader).

  60. Welome…I fear we’re going to read a lot of things that fright us, because they are now beginning to be exposed for the evil frauds they are…but we need to know what we’re really dealing with here to change the narrative and expose them all even further to change the course of history and realign that balance of power. PBO wanted to change the way Washington works, and THAT will be the hardest job of all…FOR ALL OF US! But we can do it. Together:)

  61. That’s a great, workable idea…

    “BIG time,” Yes WE do!

    And, speakin’ of Norquist…Hmmm?!

    IS TREASON THE WORD?… http://theobamadiary.com/2011/07/24/is-treason-the-word/ Via Lady Hawke at Chipsticks’ TOD (It’s located on the TOAITR Blogroll.)

    By the way, are you on twitter and/or facebook? ;)

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
    YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
    I’M IN…FIRED UP & GOIN’! ;)

  62. Reading all this made me think, where have I seen this before? Oh yeah, here. This is a little capsule from April:
    April 8th

    https://blackwaterdog.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/friday-morning-mishmash-or-why-do-republicans-hates-america/#comments

    blackwaterdog
    Yea, but the other side refuse to move even an inch. It’s not a compromise when only one side gives and gives. There’s a limit to how much you can give in to extortion.

    nintendowii10
    True… but I read somewhere that there was an actual bill that the Republicans could have agreed to but chose not to because they want baseless political theater, or something like that.

    blackwaterdog
    There is no deal that the Republicans will sign on, if it won’t include all their crazy social agenda items. As the NYT editorial pointed, Democrats already gave in more than they should have. Enough is enough. Millions of Americans lives, especially women, will turn into a true nightmare if we’ll cave in this. It will break my heart if PBO will sign on a deal that includes this atrocity.
    gn
    There is no deal that the Republicans will sign on to…period. They keep moving the goal posts because the point is the shut down. Boehner is lying through his teeth about that.

    Random stuff from that day:
    – Bachmann on CNN: “I think that we should have a clean bill that makes sure that the paychecks get to the troops on time,” she told CNN’s John King yesterday.
    – Budget negotiators met at the Capitol until 3 a.m. Friday without reaching a deal.

    April 14th

    Bobfr
    Vote totals: 260-167 – passed; 59 Republicans and more than half of the Democratic members voted against it.
    Senate passes – 81-19

  63. great analysis, TAO. This glorification of no-nothingism has been with us for a long time but the number of Americans willing to devalue education and its fruits (knowledge and critical thinking skills) seems to be rising.

  64. ummm…………..mel since when did listening to the MSM equal sanity? I can’t believe you are stil taking what they say seriously. Stop digesting that garbage and continue to support the only man that stands between us and total ANARCHY in this country. Obama/Biden 2012!!

  65. What we are witnessing now is the last stand for a govt of free citizens–a democracy now besieged by Corporations, the Corporate elite, including corporate media and, a Right Wing-dominated Supreme Court.

    Right now, our salvation is the fact that Prez Obama is strong in the WH helped on, albeit inconsistently, by one fraction of Congress which is Democratic. If this scenario were to change–say the Repugs take over the whole congress, here is what you would see:

    Supreme Court, congress, Corporations, corporate media and all the loonies who hate govt aligned against one part of government–the WH fighting for the rest of us. Given this reality, it sometimes pains me that the PL and so-called progressives do not seem to see this epic stand off as a real Clear and Present Danger to all of us.If corporations and the loonies can do this to a govt as strong as the United States, what chance do small govts have? This is why what is riding on prez Obama is more than the debt ceiling.

  66. I am thinking we used to be able to shame people and get them to conform to societal ways more easily. Now with internet blogs and chat rooms it is much easier for them to band together as well as for us to. Banding together lets them feel strength in numbers losing that shaming effect. Also changes with the advent of MSM standing up for corporate ways and values instead of presenting both sides impartially or exposing potential harm to society has been detrimental.
    Above ignorance and uneducated ways are used as an excuse for these people banding together. I know educated supposedly smart people thinking we don’t need government. I notice these people tend to be selfish and ideological. The all are dumb does not hold but it partially to blame. Reagan’s Government is the Problem pronouncement is still considered a truism by many in the GOP party. All that they do to kill everything Government and turn it over to private businesses shows they are walking their talk. The problem is people need to understand they DO need government to do all kinds of things we cannot do on our own.

  67. Michele Backstabber-Bachman has already called that the Debt Ceiling should NOT be raised. Her fate will be sealed if that happens.

  68. I took my IRA out of the stock market at the 2010 election due to distrust of GOP: I believe they are determined to take the economy down to destroy President Obama. They are now blaming any default on his putting reelection above the needs of the country: classic projection, blame the other side for what you are doing.

  69. Obama Grandmama, I agree with what you said except shame is still a powerful remedy to ignorants, even on the internet or other social media. Even in those media’s you can still shame the ignorant. Your Post is a gem.

  70. Yes – The Internet is as much (maybe more?) a force for bad as for good. We do all tend to find our niches on the Internet where we find like-minded people. When you are finding like-minded people who validate things like hatred and racism or frighteningly simple solutions to big societal problems (we can get rid of government and the private sector will take care of everything just fine-even the lightest education should tell them that the private sector, left completely unchecked, can be destructive), you find reinforcement for your worst instincts as it becomes ok to be a racist (or whatever).

  71. Just in from church and my pastor spoke on what is going on in Washington with these treasonous republicans.

    I think we should all send out twitter bombs calling the republicans treasonists.

    Just plain and simple:

    @SpeakerBoehner #GOP treason

  72. I think that some on the PL and some progressives are incapable of seeing the Clear and Present Danger the republican-corporate faction represents to our democracy because they are incapable of looking at the world and/or politics from an adult perspective. They are too focused on “keeping PBO’s feet to the fire” to pay attention to what the republican-corporate faction is up to, and if they do notice anything, they reject the opportunity to pursue it in order to engage in their favorite pastime: their dogged, relentless goal of criticizing every word/action that has anything to do with PBO and his policy proposals, even if they don’t know/have all of the facts. They want what they want when they want it the way they want it. They want immediate results based on their flawed interpretation of how our government works. I sense that they think that all PBO has to do is wave a non-existent magic wand or give a powerful speech, and viola! they get what they want without any of the messiness that is the reality of politics and governing.

  73. Honestly, I thought that was a very pleasurable read, desertflower. It isn’t about what Boehner said, it’s about how he knows he has no options and is flailing around trying to pin the responsibility for the debt on the Democrats. Focus on the analysis of what he said instead of what he said. He’s grasping at straws and the author called it for what it is: Bitch, Bail and Flail. Best piece I’ve read all week.

  74. I finally figured out how to post on your website!!!!! This is a great idea and one that could be used anywhere there is a premium on space. Hope it works out.

  75. The remedy is when all their rich friends lose their money and all they have to explain it is “ideology”. It is distressing to think good people have to be hurt to wake up to what the GOP stands for these days, but it is clear they stand for nothing less than the dismantling of government. Ultimately this leads to social inequity and a lot of pain. I keep thinking that it will have to be up to my son’s generation (he’s 23) to put it right again.

  76. Do you remember George W. Bush signing a “National Emergencies Act” which gave the President extraordinary powers during a catastropic event? It’s described here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_of_Operations_Plan Anyway, I wonder if the failure of Congress to raise the debt ceiling which would result in collapse of our nation financially would be considered enough of a catastrophe for President Obama to take action based on this Act….. I believe it is still a viable option – what do you think?

  77. The President is extraodinarly intelligent. Hope he is aware of this possible help.

  78. Done. Tweeted. Scary article nonetheless. My heart goes out to the President right now. No other president has has to deal with this ever. It’s very easy for Clinton to say he’d use the 14th amendment, but it’s just not that easy to do, or wise. I think it would land us in impeachment territory. I wish the GOP would be impeached for not following the constitiution and for economic terrorism, and treason. Somehow I worry they’ll get away with it.

    I wish Reid, Pelosi and President Obama great wisdom as they discuss what to do next. F*ck Boehner, Pelosi and Demint,et.al.

  79. In repsonse to Mr. Kristoff, you know how we get back at those damn politicians? By staying home and letting the GOP take control! Oh, wait…..tried that.

    How’d that “stay home and teach the Dems a lesson” thingy work out for ya?

  80. Meanwhile, at MSNBC….replacing YET ANOTHER Obama basher (Cenk) with someone who ISN’T an Obama basher (Sharpton) is considered such a tragedy by supposed “liberals”. Sweet FSM, welcome to bizarro-world.

  81. Thanks!

    PBHO, America, and the American people will survive this…

    WE are findin’ out who our “true” enemies and friends are!

    So, WE can “clean both houses,” for good! ;)

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!

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