The most amazing list

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  1. Outstanding! I have printed the article as a handy reference guide for refuting talking points.

  2. Every time I click on to a new list, the President’s accomplishments become more and more impressive. This one was categorized very well, very easy to follow and to use to argue against negative comments in specific categories.

    Good catch blackwaterdog.

  3. I hope Jim Messina is already preparing to send it to the entire OFA/ mailing list.

  4. You read my mind! I’m chairing an OFA subgroup meeting tonight on “Community Outreach” and I was going to look for such a list.

    Actually, though, I’m going to ask each person to write down just the top 3 things they believe Obama has done for this country, so they have them in mind when talking about him to friends, neighbors, and strangers.

  5. Wowsa

    Great Job TIMT – this is so cool. I love the way items have been listed to reflect various issues. Now we can come up with a flyer or handout that focuses on a specific group.

    Wonderful job – I will borrow these points and make pages at my blog that include these bullet points and videos (since some folks don’t like to read).

    What a great job TIMT has done.

  6. Good point, BWD 😉

    So, I just posted the following comment at

    “Please provide this link to Jim Messina and consider distributing it to every person on your email list.

    It’s entitled “I Am The Kind Of Democrat Who Is ALL IN For President Obama” and it is an exceptional compilation of all the President Obama and Congressional Democratic Senators and Representatives have accomplished in the past 26 months:

    Thank you

  7. WiW you are great with video take them and make a video. I admire your talents and BWD also. we can put a lot of things on you tube.

  8. At my Facebook and Twitter pages and about to get emailed to my address book – this is beyond awesome!

  9. Schumer: Preventing shutdown ‘impossible’ unless riders dropped
    By Michael O’Brien – 04/07/11 04:56 PM ET

    An agreement to avert a government shutdown is near “impossible” unless Republicans drop policy riders from a funding bill, leading Senate Democrats said Thursday.

    “Unless they back off those riders it’s going to be impossible, pretty much, to prevent a shutdown,” said Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), the party’s messaging chief, following a caucus meeting.

    Democrats throughout Thursday have characterized the riders to strip federal funds for Planned Parenthood and parts of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as the key sticking point in negotiations on a spending measure to fund government the rest of the fiscal year.


  11. And this is where we are going:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he’d accept a “clean” measure to extend government funding, but not the one-week measure expected to pass the House on Thursday.

    Reid said that the Senate would be “happy” to do a continuing resolution to help facilitate a deal, but only if it’s “clean,” meaning that it extends funding at current levels, and without any policy riders.

    “If we need a clean CR, of course we’ll do that,” Reid said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. “But it has to be toward culminating an agreement.”

  12. OMG! That is an amazing list and an amazing letter. This is why this site is so wonderful, I am not a good writer and putting my thoughts in words is hard, but I love to pass on others like this one and all the others that are shared here! You are all so amazing. There are days when I can’t come here until late in the day. It always picks me up to come her and read all the comments. Again thanks to all this wonderful family and to BWD for all her hard work in keeping this site clean.

  13. Thanks for this awesome List BWD, and thanks for all you do. Going to forward it now…

  14. It needs to be repeated over and over that the teabaggers are trying to force social issues into the budget. Also I think it should be pointed out that the last time there was a stoppage it was with a Democrat in the White House and the GOP having the House. That when Bush was in the White House and Dems had the House there was never a shutdown. Also point out the House Speaker during the last shutdown is now a declared candidate for President – Newt Gingrich.

  15. Also maybe tie the GOP in with Walker, how Walker tried to sneak union-busting through a budget and when that didn’t work he admitted it had nothing to do with the budget and forced it through the Wi Congress illegally.

  16. This trade deal was being spun by a certain diarist on a certain site as “anti-union” “anti-jobs” bill.

  17. The American MSM should be utterly ashamed. Essentially they are enabling and even CONDONING a racist idiot like Trump in his racist behavior.

    This is no different from him using the N-word and being cheered on by the media. It’s the same idea.

  18. I haven’t had a chance to watch this, but here’s a national news video from approx. a month ago about the 1995 shutdown:

    And I completely agree with the talking points:
    *GOP did the exact same thing the last time there was a Dem in the WH and they had the House

    *Pelosi never did this to Bush, despite severe disagreements

    *Indeed, the last shutdown architect went on record advising the House to shut the government down again and is campaigning for GOP nominee, and thus playing to the teaparties

    I join your hopes that these points are made over and over and over again. The GOP is just bananas; this is unconscionable.

  19. Yup; the premeditated nature of this shutdown speaks to that; we have them on tape:

  20. I just came across this article.(sigh)

    “Madison – In a political bombshell, the clerk in a Republican stronghold is set to release new vote totals giving 8,000 votes in the state Supreme Court race back toward Justice David Prosser, swinging the race significantly in his favor.”

    “The Waukesha County clerk’s office has told state elections officials that they will be adjusting the vote totals to give incumbent David Prosser more than 7,000 new votes, said Mike Haas, staff attorney for the state Government Accountability Board.”

    “Waukesha will be adjusting their vote totals by 14,000,” Haas said the Accountability Board was told.

    “The numbers will add some 11,000 votes for Prosser and some 3,000 for Kloppenburg, he said. Haas said the Accountability Board was not giving a reason for the change, but more details are expected soon from Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus.”

  21. I believe Waukesha is the Walker stronghold. I don’t know how you can misplace 8000 votes.

    This one is over.

  22. This needs to be passed around, and to all the media folks. It’s almost a year to the day old, but what Newt lays out is exactly what the House is trying to do now.

  23. What a coincidence !! 8000 votes were missing from the Walker stronghold !!!

    Am I the only one suspicious ?? Given the record of the Walker gang, I’m suspicious. Maybe it’s legit. Or maybe it’s not but they’ve coverer their tracks…

  24. Considering this comes out of Waukesha County, far and away the most conservative country in Wisconsin, one cannot help but hold it suspect.

  25. It would be interesting to do a detailed comparison between the first two-and-a-half years of FDR, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Obama, not only what they actually accomplished but also the makeup of their Congressional backup and the general American consciousness at that point in time. I never had the expectation that the President would dismantle the military or abandon corporate America. These are part and parcel of the American establishment today and the leader of that establishment must work with them rather than against them. Ideally, I might like to see an entirely different establishment based on peace, tolerance, cooperation, and universal brotherhood, but this mindset cannot be imposed from the top down with an iron hammer. It must first grow within human hearts. And this is where I believe lies the difference between the President and those who preceded him. He not only speaks about individual responsibility which leads to individual empowerment, he acts in such a way as to imply he actually expects it from all of us. I can think of no truer way to lead people forward. Incidents that actually materialize in the real world are just the tip of the iceberg; as the study of dynamical systems teaches, a seemingly-infinite amount of detail must occur beneath the radar for anything at all to happen, but there are often strong forces that encourage things to move in one direction or another by uniting a variety of seemingly-disparate factors and propelling them forward. This is true in both the physical world and in the world of consciousness and it may be purposeful or seemingly random (“the perfect storm”, e.g.). Since we are still the most powerful country in the world, I believe the American President cannot help but be such a force. The Obama zeitgeist is already turning out to be very different than the Bush zeitgeist. Is it an accident that people who cowered in terror while Bush was President are taking to the streets to demand their rights? This has been coming for awhile. Howard Dean, who said, “You have the power” was a precursor of President Obama’s, “You are the change you have been waiting for.” What he cannot do as leader of the establishment is what we must do by working tirelessly to change the establishment so that it works for all people everywhere. We DO have the power and I am hoping we are beginning to awaken to see that.

  26. And don’t forget that other democrat, truman! JFK had to go through alot, like this President, and, he was a NICE person! Very similar, with the exception of The womanizing!

  27. I forgot about Truman. He did, however, commit a vast evil in my book by dropping the two atomic bombs on Japan. I find that difficult to overlook.

  28. Some argue, if he did not, we would have had to invade Japan, and over 1 million lives would have been killed, including millions injured! Just Saying!

  29. Actually, it looks legit. The Dem vice-chair of the county thinks it is accurate. I doubt Kloppenburg can over come it.

  30. I think we have bigger probems, besides the bigger concern is the state senator recalls and walker himself, in january!

  31. Good point, Jovie. It was a hard decision, but it did end the war and saved alot of American lives (stopped us from having to invade Japan). Had the Japanese had the Bomb, they would have used it against the U.S. They did bomb Pearl Harbor after all and declared war on the U.S. (remember the Japanese, Italians and Nazis were allies/axis). Truman only ordered the dropping of the second bomb after the Japanese refused to surrender.

  32. Lawrence Odonnell has come out against NBC for allowing Trump to be spreading lies and they are profiting by having him on NBC shows and his own. He is so right and I will write NBC, and not watch. This is very courageous of him since they own msnbc.

  33. I’m really not understanding this sudden MSM facination with Trump. Looks like he and Matt Damon have the same publicist (bash Pres. Obama and get press coverage), the amount and breadth of the coverage is very odd. My msn homepage has had a video titled “Why Trump Doubts Obama” up for two days now. Who care what Trump thinks? Really bizarre. Kudos to Lawrence O for pointing this out. Trump’s birther nonsense is a new low, even for him. The MSM won’t let this birther shyte go away, facts and truth be damned.

  34. Thanks for the kind words. Spreading these accomplishments is indeed very important and we must keep at it to win the PR war using facts. Thanks again.

  35. NBC should get letters from everyone who supports this president. I intend to tell NBC that to condone this Trump foolishness is to sanction these racist undercurrents.

    I will tell the bosses there that they are parts and parcel of this ugliness.

    It is digusting to subject this president to this nonesense when the all the facts have been borne out.

    Those who watch scruffy’s show and support this president, should use their remote to boycott scruffy and NBC. Enough!!

    Some of us will never forget this. Never!!

  36. I am having a REAL problem with the amount of coverage Lawrence has given Trump! Now he is touting the story that Trump sent investigators to Hawaii to “investigate” the President’s birth. I think LO should get some letters to stop giving Trump the attention he craves.

  37. I wrote NBC this morning Africa and told them if Trump believes the President is not a citizen then he must hold the same belief about other Americans who have a foreign born parent and hold birth certificates identical in appearance to the President’s birth certificate. I’m one of those people and I’m spittin’ mad that NBC allowed him air time to spread his malarkey far and wide. It’s despicable.

  38. Thank you BWD WE E-mail this great inf to all my friends, neighbors can any other president match PBO?.

  39. Exactly, Kittypat. So is my son. To shamelessly parade this man on TV, when they know good and well that this story is utterly false, is disheartening and so disingenuious.

    I don’t watch TV anymore because I can’t stand the foolishness passed as news. But more importantly, it is the blatant double standard that President Obama gets, even as people in the media make excuses when they are called on it. Just the other day I saw a clip floating around on the Internet of Al Sharpton schooling Morning Joke about same, and he literally had no answer, except to try to make light of the situation.

    It is old and tiresome. Until these people began to hear from us in large numbers, they will continue this nonesense.

  40. you put this so well :

    “To shamelessly parade this man on TV, when they know good and well that this story is utterly false, is disheartening and so disingenuious.”

    The most egregious part of this fiasco is that they gave him a platform, and it IS shameless.

  41. Thank you TIMT. You did a wonderful job as usual. This is your best, imo. Please keep doing what you are doing.

  42. The surprise discovery of votes that could give Prosser the win and quash any recount before it starts already had liberal groups crying foul. Nickolaus is a former Republican staff member in the Assembly Republican Caucus and the Waukesha County Board has criticized her handling of past elections and lack of oversight in her operations.

    “There is a history of secrecy and partisanship surrounding the Waukesha County Clerk and there remain unanswered questions,” Scot Ross, director of the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, said in a statement.

    An audit of Nickolaus’ handling of the 2010 election found that she needed to take steps to improve security and backup procedures, like stop sharing passwords. The audit was requested after the county’s director of administration said Nickolaus had been uncooperative with attempts to have county experts review her systems and confirm backups were in place.

    Nickolaus was given immunity from prosecution in a 2002 criminal investigation into illegal activity by members of the assembly Republican Caucus. She worked for 13 years as a data analyst and computer specialist for the caucus.

  43. The rethugs are stealing it. Hope the unions and the protesters won’t let them to do this.

  44. I represent the Tuition Is Too Damn High Party:

    Arizona board approves steep tuition hikes for students, well above national average

    “Regents for Arizona’s public universities have voted to hike tuition by as much as 22 percent, far above the average for such increases seen nationally last year.”

  45. Certainly seems that way, doesn’t it?

    Or the mysterious Diebold patch in GA when Saxby Chambliss defeated Max Cleland.

    If the votes were truly there, so be it. But, imo, her history suggests there should be some type of investigation.

  46. I watched O’Donnells segment with Trump clips in it tonight and was absolutely appalled. As much of a reality buff as I am I immediately went to my Tivo and erased my Season Pass of Celebrity Apprentice.

    I wanted to come here instead of the OFA blog that I have not figured out how you do conversations that are sequencial yet. Remember how we boycotted Glenn Beck’s advertisers and now he is being taken off the FOX network?

    Maybe we can be successful in boycotting advertisers with Trump’s current show too. We also bombarded shows promoting dangerous bs. Can we do that with NBC over Trump’s dangerous Birther rants? He is only bringing up old birth certificate already debunked myths making them sound credible anew. Any ideas of what we might be able to do. Someone from the WA Post debunked again the Kenya Grandma saying Obama was born there myth Trump talked about today on either Lawrence O or Ed’s show earlier this evening. I’d really like to prove Trump is a liar.

  47. Yeah, that’s a little too convenient isn’t it. That and the fact that the women who reported the missing votes was involving in something shady in the past, for which she received immunity.

    Very bizarre turn of events…

  48. I wonder if Trump is only pandering to the Birthers to get them to watch his Celebrity Apprentice show?

    If it takes that level of brain power I am embarrassed I was watching the show too. There was a chart showing the audience picked up a lot more viewers for his show since he has been doing the Presidential pandering.

  49. It doesn’t look legit. And the official who “accidentally” discovered the 14K votes from her own personal computer happens to be a partisian Republican. The “Dem” clerk who was quick to say it was legit has close family members living nearby who contributed dollar amounts to Republican campaigns. That’s why the Kloppenberg camp is not buying this story. This is Florida 2000: the Sequel.

  50. Actually, I hadn’t known about Trump being on all of those shows and what he was saying except for O’Donnell having the clips on his show. Because of the chart showing how much his Celebrity Apprentice show had increased in audience since Trump’s birther pandering I deleted the Season Pass to the show from my Tivo. I also have posted above the idea of boycotting the advertisers for the show like we did in OFA for Glenn Beck’s show which is now being taken off the network. Also emailing NBC my disgust in letting Trump put our President in renewed danger due to letting him push his new claims against already debunked myths. I hope others join me.

  51. “Waukesha — Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus’ decision to go it alone in how she collects and maintains election results has some county officials raising a red flag about the integrity of the system.

    Nickolaus said she decided to take the election data collection and storage system off the county’s computer network – and keep it on stand-alone personal computers accessible only in her office – for security reasons.

    “What it gave me was good security of the elections from start to finish, without the ability of someone unauthorized to be involved,” she said.

    Nonetheless, Director of Administration Norman A. Cummings said because Nickolaus has kept them out of the loop, the county’s information technology specialists have not been able to verify Nickolaus’ claim that the system is secure from failure.

    “How does anybody else in the county know, except for her verbal word, that there are backups, and that the software she has out there is performing as it should?” he said. “There’s no way I can assure that the election system is going to be fine for the next presidential election.””

  52. This whole WI election smells of rats and Kochroaches.

    1. A Republican county clerk with a known history of “shady” behavior during elections suddenly “finds” an extra 14K votes from Waukesha country that had been stored on her personal computer data.

    2. She “finds” the extra votes on her computer two days after the election – that’s enough time to brainstorm a method of stealing the election. Why didn’t she “find” them the same night or the day after?

    3. They “find” a specific number of votes – enough to give Prosser a lead that would not trigger an automatic recount.

    4. A “Dem” clerk quickly jumps in to say that they “checked everything out” and those extra votes are legit.

    But here is just one problem:

    According to a progressive communications group:

    “On Tuesday, shockingly-large turnout suddenly emerged from Waukesha County, which did not comport with either the results of previous spring elections, or even internal estimates from city officials mid-day. In fact, a Waukesha City Deputy Clerk said at 1:18pm that turnout was very typical, predicting somewhere between 20 to 25 percent. As Tuesday night wore on, reporting in Waukesha County stopped altogether for hours, leaving observers to wonder what was going on. Then suddenly, results suggesting massive turnout started to pour in rapidly with Prosser adding dramatically to his total by a 73-27 percent margin.

    One Wisconsin Now estimates put overall turnout near 38 percent, a wild outlier to historical data and the earlier mid-day estimation of Waukesha’s own officials. In April 2009, turnout was 20 percent; April 2008, turnout was 22 percent and in April 2007, turnout was 24 percent. All of these elections had hotly-contested Supreme Court races as well.”

  53. But there are some who believed the war was over before the atomic holocaust and there was no necessity for it.

  54. Well, there you go.

    Truth, Justice and the American Way – seems as though we have to fight for it at every turn.


  55. Happy to do anything I can to support your fine efforts, TiMT. Just violated my ‘do not touch orange’ vow and went there specifically to recommend and provide support for your fine diary.

    Yes.We.Will. … DO.MORE.TOGETHER. !!!

  56. If the Japanese did not surrender, the war was not over. The Japanese did not surrender until AFTER the 2nd bomb was dropped. Those are the facts. The Japanese were bent on world domination and committed horrible atrosities against the Chinese. They sided with the Nazis. I understand an aversion to violence, but WWII was one of the only just wars, IMO.

  57. Thanks you Sheila for this great post. I think your challenge is an excellent idea. I would have included on your list of Democratic Presidents the first Progressive President, Woodrow Wilson. I would also have specified, a bit, on your call to examine “the general American consciousness “during their presidency,” to include the level of Democratic grass root activism; especially during the 1930’s and 1960’s. The comparison of the records of these Democratic Presidents should also include a look at the sate and nature of the media and the way the media, at the time, treated these Presidents;compared to the way they are treating President Obama.

    Like you, “I never had the expectation that the President would dismantle the military or abandon corporate America.” By the way no other President was ever expected to do that; even the Progressive hero FDR did not do away with corporations and the military.

  58. See now this is why it’s always best to win by a healthy margin so no amount of cheating can effect the outcome like this election, 2000, and 2004.

    And like you said that lady seems really fake. Oh yeah I just found all of these votes for Prosser to but him in the lead and avoid a potential recount. Give me a break !

    Even if they did something and they get away with this this will only enrage the electorate even more in Wisconsin.

  59. Why do they even have partisan hacks like this for elections. Bring in non-partisan people from now on.

  60. Well, this story might be in the news a bit longer than the GOP would like.

    Apparently, Ms. County clerk in her press conference this afternoon/evening confessed that she had imported the election data from MS Excel into Microsoft Access and then forgot to save. The problem with this confession is that Access doesn’t require the user to “save” because it automatically saves once a record is updated. Therefore, Ms. County clerk’s story about forgetting to save in MS Acess is bogus. Let’s see how this plays out…

    There is a diary on Orange on the rec list which speaks of this very issue, for those of you who visit that site.

  61. Eric, do you think history would have treated Truman kindly if he had dropped the the two bombs on two German cities Killing Tens of thousands of innocent Germans? I am sure people will cite the bombing of Dresden, which was also horrific, but no where the enormity of the horror that happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Personally, I think race had a great deal to do with the indifference of not taking into account the killing of so many innocent civilians. There are several historians who contend that the Japanese were ready to surrender before Truman dropped the bombs. I do however concede the fact that historians continue to debate that issue.

  62. You are so correct, hopefruit2. I think we just got a strong scent of rat from Ms. County Clerk.

  63. BWD, I hope you feature Frank Schaeffer’s exceptional take-down of the totally corrupt Republican House (and Party).

    I realize he posted it on huffnpuff and linking there is totally nauseating, so perhaps you could request that he allow you to display the entire essay here and then everyone could not only read it but link to your place instead of huffnpuff.

    Here’s a sample:

    “The other day my two-year-old granddaughter vomited on me. I love her, didn’t mind and cleaned up. I don’t love the Tea Party and the Republicans who are presently puking on America. I won’t forgive them. But I will help clean up: in 2012.

    As a former Republican disgusted with the modern day version of a once actual political party now devolved into a far right religious right/loony right rabble all I can say is the Republicans have crossed a historical line from which there is no return. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin are not a cause but just another symptom of the political equivalent of Mad Cow disease.

    The ideologues of the right who are willing to shut down the government, risk the fragile economy — in a time of war no less (“patriots?”) — and who have hidden behind their racist “birther” code for the fact that they won’t accept a black president… et al are puking on the rest of us.”

    huffnpuff link:

    Thank you

  64. More from the huffnpuff post by Mr Schaeffer (and, yes, I know it exceeds four paragraphs and you can certainly delete, BWD, but hopefully you and Mr. Schaeffer can reach an agreement for you to quote his essay in full – or even have him post it here, himself, which would be really cool and a really good new venue for him instead of his enriching AOL 🙂 ):

    “Tea Party Vomit

    What’s so curious is that in this religion-inflicted country of ours, the same Evangelicals, conservative Roman Catholics, and others who had been running around post-Roe v Wade insisting that America had a “Christian foundation” and demanding a “return to our heritage” (and/or more recently trashing health care reform as “communist”) ignored the fact that one historic contribution of Christianity was a commitment to strong central government.

    For instance, this included church support for state-funded, or state-church-funded, charities, including hospitals, as early as the fourth century. Government was seen as part of God’s Plan for creating social justice and defending the common good. Christians were once culture-forming and culture-embracing people.

    Evangelicals like Palin and Bachmann and their Tea Party followers seem to believe that
    Jesus commanded that all hospitals (and everything else) should be run by corporations for profit, just because corporations weren’t the evil government. The right even decided that it was “normal” for the state to hand over its age-old public and patriotic duties to private companies — even for military operations (“contractors”), prisons, health care, public transport, and all the rest.

    The religious right/far right Tea Party et al. favor private “facts,” too. They claimed that global warming wasn’t real. They asserted this because scientists (those same agents of Satan who insisted that evolution was real) were the ones who said human actions were changing the climate. Worse, the government said so, too!

    “Global warming is a left-wing plot to take away our freedom!”

    “Amtrak must make a profit!”

    Even the word “infrastructure” lost its respectability when government had a hand in maintaining roads, bridges, and trains.

    In denial of the West’s civic-minded, government-supporting heritage, Evangelicals (and the rest of the right) wound up defending private oil companies but not God’s creation, private cars instead of public transport, private insurance conglomerates rather than government care of individuals.

    The price for the Religious Right’s wholesale idolatry of private everything was that Christ’s reputation is tied to a cynical union-busting political party owned by billionaires.

    It only remained for a far right Republican-appointed majority on the Supreme Court to rule in 2010 that unlimited corporate money could pour into political campaigns — anonymously — in a way that clearly favored corporate America and the super wealthy, who were now the only entities served by the Republican Party.

    And now it is these extremists that have shown that they are willing to destroy our economy even risking a government shut down.

    These are the people who also say president Obama isn’t a real American, code for “not like us” — in other words a black man.

    Let’s call it as it is: ignorant, race-based religious-infused know-nothing politics and reaction are what the Republican Party is about these days. My granddaughter had an excuse for vomiting: She was two, ill and doing her best. And she soon got better. The Republicans won’t get well. Their illness is terminal.

    The only question now is: will they take us all with them?”

    Great question Frank. Answer – ONLY IF WE LET THEM … WHICH WE WILL NOT.

  65. I am glad BWD gave you “the Kudos.” You really deserve more than “kudos” for your terrific post, which, I am sure, was a result of you spending a great deal of your time researching and organizing all the information. Your unequivocal support for the President, which you based on a rational and objective examination of his record, sends a very powerful message.

    Several days ago a commentator at Raw Story challenged me to cite factual evidence as to why I support the President other than my “blind admiration” of him. I listed ten of the things you highlighted. I expected a reply dismissing everything. But I was really surprised when she/ he replied by saying “You make good points.” I am absolutely convinced that there are so many people who are being misled by the PL that can still be persuaded to support the President based on the record of his accomplishments.

    Again TiMT, as many people have said here and on TPV, that was really a terrific piece that will help all of us fend off the unfounded attacks on President Obama. So, for what you did, and what you constantly do with many of your excellent posts at TPV, I think you deserve double “kudos.”

  66. Bobfr, thanks for sharing Frank Schaeffer’s post on HuffPost. This is an important expose of the New Republican party dominated by the teabaggers. Sadly, they’ve been joined by the PL left which is so utterly clueless about the political reality President Obama has to operate in.

    Just because they’ve read some books on FDR and the 1930’s they think that President Obama can completely replicate what FDR did ( by the way most of what they claim FDR did are based on myths) in a completely different political environment. Rather than taking the fight to the teabaggers, the PL left, including Huff Post, has spent most of the past two and half years fighting the President. Believe me if past Democratic Presidents had to deal with the vitriol and the venom coming from their side, at the same time that they were trying to deal with the most vile attacks from the Republicans, I doubt that any thing meaningful would have been accomplished.

  67. I think history would have judged Truman kindly if he used atomic bombs against Nazi Germany. Truman and the Allies were the victors of the war and the victors write the history, as you well know. The Japanese during WWII also held racist views and viewed themselves to be racially superior, FYI. I suggest some research into their treatment of the Chinese and their views of other races. You are correct that I point to the massive fire bombings of German cities during WWII and they were horrific (I don’t think burning people to death is done out of racial love). I do believe that the U.S. used the atomic bombs to hasten the end of WWII to save American lives. Ending the war and sparing Americans additional casualties was Truman’s duty as CIC. If the Japanese did not surrender AFTER the first atomic bomb was dropped, I doubt they were ready to surrender prior to it being dropped.

  68. Others argue that the war was essentially over when the bombs were dropped. One way or another, tens of thousands of civilians suffered horrible fates for many years to come. I have difficulty getting beyond this. I understand that violence is sometimes effective in fending off even more violence; however, as long as humankind continues to think in this manner, we will never move beyond it.

  69. Exactly, Nathan. Thank you for your informed comment. I must admit, my grasp of American history (except in the field of art) is weak and I appreciate it when those on this site who know more than I bring new facts to my attention. But I, like you and others here, am flabbergasted at the treatment of President Obama by his “critics”, who seem to have no concept of what the job of President entails on the international stage.

  70. What is disheartening, africa, is that Trump’s silly show’s ratings have gone way up since he began this nonsense. I want to believe in people, but sometimes I am very discouraged by their behavior.

  71. I received this message too, Tien Le. Though I understand this is a difficult and unlikely scam to pull off, my first reaction when I saw it came out of Waukesha was that it was somehow bogus. The election officers in our state are elected partisans, and Waukesha, is the most Republican pocket in the state, so it does not seem too farfetched to believe something is rotten in Brookfield (which is just a few blocks from me).

  72. I still am at a loss as to what Arizona, and all the Republicans who want to make higher education inaccessible to most, have to gain by that. We know very few of the top one percent have the brains for innovative research and development in most fields. What a bleak future they envision: a few white, wealthy people playing with their filthy lucre while the world falls apart around them.

  73. What is interesting is that these are the kind of “patriots” who scream, “They hate us for our freedom,” while doing everything in their power to take that freedom from everyone but the very wealthy.

  74. That’s my take on it also, Nathan. No matter what, however, tens of thousands of innocent people were obliterated and many thousands more lived on to suffer slow deaths from the effects of the radiation. After reading Jonathan Schell’s gruesome description of the aftereffects in “The Fate of the Earth”, I ican feeling nothing but shame for my country in regard to it. As for the race issue, the West has never acknowledged it. I thought it was very interesting that the movie “The English Patient” left the sapper’s reaction to this out of the film when it was an important part of the novel.

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