CBO: Paul Ryan’s joke will INCREASE the debt

Beside destroying the lives of the weakest and most vulnerable, the CBO project that by the end of the 10-year budget window, public debt will actually be higher than it would be if the GOP just did nothing.


Paul Krugman:

Gosh. For a plan that supposedly sets a new standard of seriousness, Paul Ryan’s vision  depends an awful lot on unicorn sightings — belief in the impossible.


This isn’t a serious proposal; it’s a strange combination of cruelty and insanely wishful thinking.


144 thoughts on “CBO: Paul Ryan’s joke will INCREASE the debt

  1. And that’s not all that’s included in Ryan’s plan:

    House Republicans — led by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) — released their 2012 budget today. The plan includes a giant tax cut for the wealthy, as well as a complete dismantling of Medicare and Medicaid.

    But it also includes a gift for Wall Street, in the form of a repeal of the provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law that protect taxpayers from having to bail out failed financial institutions. Here’s how the House Republicans framed their repeal effort:

    Although the bill is dubbed “Wall Street Reform,” it actually intensifies the problem of too-big-to-fail by giving large, interconnected financial institutions advantages that small firms will not enjoy. While the authors of Dodd-Frank went to great lengths to denounce bailouts, this law only sustains them.

    The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) now has the authority to access taxpayer dollars in order to bail out the creditors of large, “systemically significant” financial institutions. CBO’s expected cost for this new authority is $26 billion, although CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf recently testified that “the cost of the program will depend on future economic and financial events that are inherently unpredictable.” In other words, another large-scale financial crisis in which creditors are guaranteed to get government bailouts would cost taxpayers much, much more. This budget would end the regime now enshrined into law that paves the way for future bailouts.


  2. Repost:

    Here’s who’s shaping up to be President Obama’s senior staff for his reelection campaign:

    Jim Messina, Campaign Manager

    Jen O’Malley-Dillon, Deputy Campaign Manager

    Julianna Smoot, Deputy Campaign Manager

    Rufus Gifford, Director of Finance

    Liz Lowery, Deputy Finance Director

    Ben LaBolt, Press Secretary

    Katie Hogan, Deputy Press Secretary

    Mitch Stewart, Battleground States Director

    Jeremy Bird, National Field Director

    Marlon Marshall, Deputy National Field Director: Marshall will leave his post as National field director for the DCCC to join the reelection campaign in Chicago. He served as field director in Nevada, Ohio and Indiana for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in 2007 and 2008 before joining the Obama campaign as the general election director in Missouri. Marlon is a native of St. Louis and attended the University of Kansas.

    Also: In the first 24 hours since his filing, Obama’s supporters made more than 23,000 contributions, 96.9% for $200 or less.

    Read more in Mike Allen’s Playbook.

  3. Seems like everyone is on the other thread, monitoring the WI election situation. This thread will pick up by later today. 🙂

  4. I hope all those seniors who were so worried about the President cutting Medicare and SS now realize what is going on. Or are they to selfish to care about future generations?

  5. You watch, the GOP is testing the messaging of the WH for the govt shutdown! If it is not that good, they will continue, but if they fall behind in the polls, they will cut a deal! It is all about public perception! Please call your congressman to complain!

  6. I cannot believe the Senate is voting to ban the EPA from regualting grenhouse gasses! WTF is wrong with the congress? Jee Wiz!

  7. This is why it’s important to reach the youth. These seniors who vote republican are jeopardizing the youth’s future since these changes really take effect down the road.

    The seniors already retired won’t be hurt as badly as the young people and folks in their 30s and 40s who will have to work until they’re past 70 and who will have no health care.

    The youth and people in their 30s and 40s had better wake up and realize they cannot allow the seniors to vote away their futures.

  8. And now a word from the brilliant pm carpenter on the Paul Ryan budget proposal………..

    April 06, 2011
    How “serious” is Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget proposal? To my thinking, not serious at all. A serious proposal would, for starters, have at least a prayer of a chance of Congressional passage in some recognizable form. Anything less is a mere political statement, of which there are thousands already, interchangeably worthless or moot.

    If there’s any respect left in this country for editorial judgment, consider that of, say, the rather respectable NY Times: Ryan’s proposal, writes the paper this morning, “was less a budget-balancing effort than a press release for the 2012 elections.” In other words, a political statement. Ryan himself admitted as much yesterday, framing his “serious” proposal as a political “cause.”


  9. I am continuing to look for effective phrases we can use when posting comments, putting stories out on Facebook, etc.

    Here is one I just got from Emily’s list we may want to circulate.

    Republicans promised to focus on jobs but instead they pulled a bait-and-switch on American voters. Now the “top priority” of Speaker John Boehner and his Republican cronies is to defund Planned Parenthood and defund Title X, taking away the services American women need to take care of themselves and their children. Basic needs like cancer screenings, maternity care, and child services are at risk.

    This paragraph can be used for several subjects just substitute

    “defund Planned Parenthood ”


    privatize Medicare


    gut the EPA


    I like the bait and switch language. I will add this to my web page of “good comments” we can use.

  10. Here’s a quote from weeper of the house Boehner about America’s unemployed youth. Calls them fat and lazy. It was included in a story on PoliticusUSA and should be used in an ad and every where else we can use it.

    During an interview with Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone, Boehner stuck to every outlandish Republican Party talking points until Taibbi asked Boehner about today’s young people. Apparently unaware he was still on record, Boehner let Taibbi know how he really felt about poor Americans:

    “Can’t pay your student loan? Face it your parents were lazy and you couldn’t afford college. The world needs ditch diggers and you were born into a family of them. Can’t pay your mortgage? Your house was too expensive and you couldn’t afford it.”It’s not going to happen in the US. The kids here are too fat, too lazy, to addicted to TV, fast food, cheap credit, and Facebook.” I have news for you- there are plenty of jobs out there- the unemployed don’t want them. Today’s college student feels entitled to make at least $24 right after college. I’m not worried for this country- there are a few of them who actually want to work, take Mark Zucker(sic). You don’t build a site like Facebook out of thin air- it takes talent and hard work. I went to a community college and all I saw were people sitting in front of computers typing away, their eyes were fixed. Probably just face booking away.”

    Full story:

  11. I’ve noticed the media has helped republicans completely change the focus from jobs to deficit reduction. There has been no talk at all about jobs. We really do need to find effective phrases to use. You are doing a great job

  12. Wow, he really said that on record? I have to read the whole article. This should be in ads everywhere!

  13. My fax machine has been smoking! I have faxed, emailed and snail mailed everyone of my Repugnant Senators and my Rep. I also blasted my Republic(an) rag for printing lies and the letters of ignorant people who have no real facts just hogwash they wish to pass for an “educated” opinion.

    Printing differing opinions is one thing, printing base stupidity, unsupported rhetoric from the greedy, the uneducated and the totally
    nasty is something else entirely. I think it needs some real push back and I gave it to them!

  14. From Media Matters:

    Glenn Beck’s Fox News Show Ending

    April 06, 2011 12:47 pm ET by Media Matters staff

    From an April 6 press release:

    FOX NEWS AND MERCURY RADIO ARTS ANNOUNCE NEW AGREEMENT(New York, NY) Fox News and Mercury Radio Arts, Glenn Beck’s production company, are proud to announce that they will work together to develop and produce a variety of television projects for air on the Fox News Channel as well as content for other platforms including Fox News’ digital properties. Glenn intends to transition off of his daily program, the third highest rated in all of cable news, later this year.
    Take a bow all who boycotted and made this dangerous, loony bleed sponsors. I don’t care how they try to spend it — money talks.


  15. This isn’t anything new in GOP thought. I believe the elder Bush said pretty much the same thing, though in more polite tones. The GOP as it’s constituted now is an influence peddling racket, nothing more, nothing less. They merely want to get into power to fatten their own wallets; they have ZERO interest in the commonwealth, merely in servicing the rich so that they can get in on the gravy train. That so many low-income people fall for their “family values” line is simply indicative of the destruction they’ve wrought on general education in this country. In any other Western democracy these people wouldn’t even poll enough of a percentage to make it into Parliament, never mind actually having control of it.

  16. I hope Rupert Murdoch goes broke propping up this losers with big salaries and no advertising revenue. After awhile, he has to start losing money.

  17. Perhaps he can develop a show for Donald Trump, who he said went too far with the birther nonsense.

    I’m starting to wonder whether Beck believes a word he’s saying and selling to that viewership.

  18. Thanks for the Politicus Usa Link,
    Iread that article, and by the end of the read, I said what a “NASTY INDIVIDUAL”, John Boehner Is. After I’ve seen him cry telling his story how he had crummy jobs and sweeping floors. What a “NASTY INDIVIDUAL”. May God have Mercy on his Soul.

  19. Will it get 13 Dems? Also didn’t PO say he’ll veto it? The EPA having the power it does is to force Congress to get a comprehensive bill through, not strip the EPA and then leave the status quo.

  20. Paul Ryan’s budget just gave the Democrats 2012. Republican reps and senators are going to be arguing about how they want to destroy Medicare and lower taxes on the rich during an election year?

    What a massive overstep and complete political blunder.


  22. That’s why they can’t decide who to support for President yet. They are trying to figure out who’s going to be the best bang for their dirty buck. And it’s a difficult task, since all the current GOP candidates are LOSERS.

  23. If that’s true, what a freaking amazing story. From 30 points down to eking out a victory in the first count. Maybe now liberals have learned that you have to go out and vote in EVERY election to move that good old Overton Window, just like the conservatives have been doing for 30 years.


  25. State Rep. Kelda Helen Roys, who represents the Lake Mills area, said Prosser picked up only 2 votes in Lake Mills, pending the count of 24 handwritten ballots.

    If this holds true, Kloppenburg will win the first count by around 200 votes out of 1.4M cast. Automatic recount, but you’d be surprised how accurate the first count usually is. Law of averages means a missed vote for Prosser here will be made up by a missed vote for Joanne there.

    Absentee ballots I believe have not been counted yet though.

  26. Hey everyone, it looks like this story has been taken off the PoliticusUSA website and could be a hoax. Please ignore this, I am going to ask BWD to remove my post.

    I am sooooooooooo sorry.

  27. Wow; last I saw, Kloppenburg had a 235 lead with the remaining precincts, so she’s won this thing.

    Awesome news, and thanks a million to the people of Wisconsin for holding Walker accountable in this contest and several others.

    Especially big props have got to go to the alliance of unions, Dems, and students who were able to successfully hold a proxy rebellion against Walker with his name not on the ballot, and tossed out an incumbent who just weeks ago was slated to skate through. The GOP did this with POTUS/Pelosi in 2010, and it looks as if voters are swinging again in light of the huge GOP overreach.

    This is just awful news for the GOP nation-wide, and those Republican state senators should detect a very ominous warning in these results. I expect that a few will indeed end up recalled.

    Huge win, from the protests, to the litigation, and now to the electoral win. People really and truly can make a difference and when sticking together, improve lives.

  28. Okay, she seems to be just tweeting out the same rumors everybody is passing around. Also She represents Waunakee not Lake Mills. Andy Jorgensen reps the Lake Mills district.

  29. Okay, it’s clear to me that we have a golden opportunity hear to employ some Republican messaging strategy in real time. WiW is all over this and I’d encourage others to join us in helping with this message.

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has given us our talking point:

    The new Republican Budget is a DEATH TRAP for seniors.

    Repeat that sentence over and over to anyone who will listen. Put it on your facebook page, tweet it, email it to your friends, make sure every senior in your sphere of influence hears that simple message. Repeat it as often as humanly possible. Include it in every comment on a news site or blog. We can saturate our ‘airwaves’ with this simple, clean message day in and day out like breathing. This is how the MSM picks up on a message–real people, not just marketing firms–saying the same thing over and over. Make it local, make it personal: Death Trap for Seniors.

  30. The article may be fake, but I doubt the sentiments are. Like I said above, I remember the elder Bush saying that not everyone could go to university, that we needed some people to be janitors. It is a mindset among a large segment of the GOP. Ryan’s budget should be evidence of that.

  31. It also is a result of the horrible state of national media. A high portion of the people with a national pulpit are either corrupted, or so ignorant that they buy everything the republican think tanks are selling.

    More than any policy battle, democrats have to find a way to push into the head of so called “journalists” some REALITY, some analysis based on FACTS , not on ideology !!!

    Good Lord, the CBO is destroying Ryan’s budget and the stupid talking heads are still buying it ???????

  32. It may sound like I’m being flippant, but I think our media’s slide began when “Entertainment Tonight” came on the air. It was the first “infotainment” program, and was smashingly successful. It proved to news directors that they could get more eyeballs if they would dumb down their newscasts, which has wound up with a “serious” journalist like Wolf Blitzer doing lifestyle stories. And that idea of infotainment has bled into “serious” journalism, which has to make its stories exciting and entertaining. I’m not quite sure how to get out of this predicament, as we’re so far down the rabbit hole.

  33. According the the Journal Sentinel, still with one precinct outstsanding, Kloppenburg’s lead is up to 336. They must be making adjunstments.

  34. I think many on Wall Street indeed don’t have any conscience. People like Ryan are simply totally blinded by an ideology that should have died during the Bush presidency. Reagan tried the supply-side thing, Bush tried it again. It has been PROVEN to NOT working.

    Bill Clinton said it best: “Ideology over evidence”.

  35. His plan would hurt everyone 55 and under, not just those in their 30’s and 40’s. It would likely be hardest on those in their 50’s now as they would have the least time to adjust investment strategies considering nearly their entire careers were planned based on Social Security and Medicare as a large part of their retirement planning.

  36. For people watching the WI horserace, Kloppenburg’s lead just widened out a little to a little over 300. The AP is rechecking their numbers with the individual precincts before creating a final unofficial tally.

  37. I’m so relieved. Late last night things didn’t look so good.

    What a victory. What a motivation for democrats in Wisconsin. Next: RECALL !!

  38. In this media environment, democrats have to learn the art of the soundbite. Difference with republicans: soundbites are based on REALITY.

    I’ll say it again: I LOVE Debbie and I’m very happy about her nomination.

  39. As the AP does its rechecking the figures change a little, but not much. I think by the end of the day, she will end up ahead by about 300 votes. Recount is obviously coming, as required, unless there are a lot of absentee ballots that haven’t been counted yet. In everything I have been reading, that aspect hasn’t really been mentioned very much.
    We can be pretty sure that Prosser’s team will challenge a lot of ballots, Kloppenburg’s not so many. My prediction: After recount, Kloppenburg wins by 428 votes. You heard it here first.

  40. It is good news to hear that Kloppenberg is coming out on top before the recount. I wish the margin was wider but I think she’ll hang on even through a recount. Good job WI!

  41. I believe Wisconsin counts absentees the same time they count the rest of the ballots.

  42. THIS is what the lunatic fringe (aka Republican party) know they must crush:


    They simply have failed, to this point, in blunting the amazing [yes, AMAZING, given how close the US and much of the world’s economy came to a massive depression] recovery engineered by President Obama (and the skilled Reid and Pelosi in the 111th Congress).

    You bet they want the Government to ‘shut down’; you bet they will do everything they can to harm almost all Americans because that is the ONLY strategy they can have and deliver to their masters – the wealthiest 2 % – the one and only thing those masters want – MORE $$$$.

    Any person on the ‘left’ who does anything but give their all to the re-election of President Obama and Congressional Democratic Reps and Senators (and Governors and …) is not a ‘liberal’ – they are either intentional or lame enablers of the greedsters.

  43. LOL japa @ how you nailed that no 428 . You got an insider the WI elections board ?

  44. Actually Donald “Chump” is getting a show on Fox and I think it will replace Beck’s show. I say this is a win for sanity though. It just goes to show that when people write advertisers, and boycott their products, things happen. When viewership drastically decline, things happen. I just wish more people would boycott those on the extreme left and maybe things would change a bit.

  45. I think so too. Awesome job, WI—they aint even wait a year to start holding Walker accountable. They’re dismantling the elected infrastructure propping him up. Those Republican state senators need to understand that for this particular vote to flip the way that it did, with a natural aversion to politicizing supreme court appointments surely accounting for its closeness, there will be no such aversion for those senators. And Walker? Soon as he’s eligible, unless there’s a major course correction, (clear’s throat, puts on Heidi Klum voice) “one day you’re in, one day you’re out.” Walker, your day is coming if these elections are any indication.

    Wow. I’m just thinking about how we got here, from the demonstrations erupting, the Dem senators fleeing, the court intervention because of defects in Walker’s rushed process, and now, to voters weighing in with a clear rebuke.

    Yes we can, yes we did, and yes we will. Congrats cheeseheads!

  46. Can you quote the whole thing here for those of us who have left the site? Thanks.

  47. gn, it’s just a diary with dancing feet gif’s & a go pound sand gig to rethugs. Nothing serious or even important. 🙂

  48. Wonderful stats for my neck of the woods, L.A. – Long Beach. Excellent analysis, but I think the GOP will fail. Call me an optimist, but I think a deal will be struck.

  49. I am relying more and more on this site as I went to the new OFA site and am having difficulty navigating it. I do not know where the latest blog posts are. The moderator says flag offensive posts yet the word flag in the heading only appears on the first few comments then disappears. All of my own posts seem to be together nowhere near where I am replying to other posts and the moderator is not answering my questions. My own personal blogs are still there but there is no way I can see to write new blogs. Frustrating!
    I also checked out the Facebook blog and did not recognize anyone there. The posts didn’t seem to have any facts behind them only personal thoughts.
    Glad I am here.

  50. 800k govt workers will be furloughed if their is a goivt shutdown! That will crush our economy! What do the republicans care.
    BTW: Romney and Huckabee endorsed Ryans budget plan! Far right lunatics!

  51. Yup, don’t get dismayed, don’t get depressed, don’t tune out (been guilty of that myself) and we the people really can make a difference.

    Look at where we are today versus that time period of the phone call with Walker giggling it up with Fake Koch like a coupla Mean Girls. We succeeded where the protesters forced a rushed vote, the court refused to enforce that procedurally defective piece of legislation, and now voters have delivered such a clear message: keep it up, Republicans, and you’re tossed.

    Power to the people indeed. Very empowering set of events to witness.

  52. Debbie is great with that kind of narrative. Pay the rethugs in their own coin. From here onwards, I expect DNC to be proactive unlike kaine’s reign.

  53. Oh, and the House republicans have asked Harry Ried to step down if he cannot produce a budget bill, that will pass the senate!
    Only problem is, by law, the ‘Budget bill has to originate in the HOUSE!
    Aint that rich?

  54. Oh, lol, I thought it was scholarship and was like, “man I’d really like to read that.” Thanks for the description!

  55. Indeed, Wasserman-Schulz pulls no punches. I expect the DNC to more closely coordinate with the White House, and, hopefully, keep congressional Dems in line with not-so-subtle reminders.

  56. Congratulations, Justice Kloppenburg!

    Final tally (subject to a near-certain recount):
    Kloppenburg: 740,090
    Prosser: 739,886


    Round of applause and much deserved celebrations to all that made this happen.

    To quote my wonderful Vice President: “this is a big f-ing deal.” This sleepy little election is, I hope, a harbinger of things to come.

    Next steps: IIRC, Prosser has three days to file for a recount; almost sure to happen.

  57. All precincts reporting. 204 vote lead for Kloppenburg. AP will be doing some adjusting during the day, but looks like she will have the lead going into the recount.

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  59. Just watched the town hall. There were some great questions. PBO was wonderful as always.
    I wish our “journalists” would ask intelligent questions like real people.

  60. I think that they’re still kicking things off. This is why it’s good that this is taking place so early. Make sure to write your criticisms and critiques in the comments; I think they’re serious about wanting users to ultimately decide the direction of the OFA blog site.

  61. co-posting obviously. I think the recount is automatic at this level. Also, these are unofficial, but it does warm one’s heart that in just a few weeks a 30 % point lead ended up this close.

  62. At POTUS stop in Phili today, he was talking about the budget, and he said, this notion of my way or the highway is not doable. How many of you are married? Well, when was the last time you got what you wanted? You see, it don’t work that way! LOL!

  63. Now is the double check for potential tabulation errors. When talking about over 1.4M we’re not exactly out of the woods yet – but I’d MUCH rather be in Kloppenburg’s position than Prossers at this stage.

    Have to be on the high look out for fraud now that folks can see Prosser only needs 200 votes.

  64. The GOP are a bunch of BASTARDOS, HEARTLESS,
    despicable human beings on earth. If there is a shutdown the most affected will be Siniors, we have all ready called to my neighbors in my comunity, so they know what’s going on, and they are pissed as held.

  65. Fraud? Gee whiz SR, that’s what Republicans accuse Dems of. They are pure as the driven snow and would never attempt anything shady. LOL.

  66. What’s this? A change of heart?

    “Speaker John Boehner is warning his Republican colleagues that Democrats would “win” a government shutdown and the GOP would suffer a political catastrophe if the federal government runs out of money at the end of this week.”

    “The Democrats think they benefit from a government shutdown. I agree,” Boehner said during a closed-door, 90-minute meeting on House Republicans on Monday night, according to several lawmakers who attended the session.

    “My view is that a government shutdown doesn’t benefit anyone necessarily, but if one party or the other is going to get an edge, it’s probably the Democrats. I agree with the speaker there,” Rep. Steve LaTourette (R-Ohio) told POLITICO. “If you look at the government shutdown of 1995, it guaranteed President Clinton’s reelection. And that’s what this would do. If you want to cede the presidential race in 2012, you shut down the government.”

    “But while Boehner may have backing from the old veterans in his camp, he’s run headlong into the tea-party group of House Republicans who believe that Obama and Senate Democrats would come off the worse if a shutdown actually takes place.”


  67. Yes. Gotta watch out ugly rethug tactics here. I trust the unions and the protest organizers not to allow them to get away any shenanigans. I wonder if the rethugs will go to court, if the recount goes against them. Imagine going to court over a SC judge. 🙂

  68. The “real” politicians in the GOP caucus know that they’re the ones who will get slaughtered if the govt shuts down. They want a deal. The teabaggers are not real politicians. They know nothing of how the govt works, and believe that merely by an act of will they can remake things in their image. They’re all John Galts. This is why I’m hopeful that Boehner and his circle will throw over the teabaggers and compromise with the Dem caucus. Either way, the Dems win, which means the country wins.

  69. I dare you to go over to Dailykos and post a diary about this, using this article! I will laugh my azz off!

  70. A few months old but he could say the same thing today. Thanks for the link, Jeremy.

  71. Remember Gore could not even get 100 votes out of over 100 million!
    Then their was that Franken recount, that took 9 months, and that did not even move the dial, in fact franken gained votes!

  72. BONER just asked for obamas budget alternative! UMMM, He gave it last month, boner! Where were you, the International space station? These guys are a joke. They here something that some tea bagger says, and they run with it as a headline! The MSM is the most under-educated media in the history of news!
    Unhappily, the Pre-requisite for getting a job in the MSM is a GED! That is it!

  73. Here’s a interesting map – http://ericcompas.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/kloppenbergprosser-election-results/

    Bottom left is Kapanke, next to Kapanke is Shultz who voted against the bill. Hopper I believe is in Winnebago – so there is work to do there yet. Darling’s district has parts of Milwaukee County, Ozaukee County and Washington County (bottom right on the map) so that will be a tough one as well but she won re-election in 2008 with 50.46% of the vote.

  74. Oh don’t worry. I bet the usual dkos progressives are already busy with their poutrage “diaries” throwing Van Jones under the bus.

    Kudos to Van for calling out the PL, especially on cenk, the punk’s show.

  75. US trade deal with Colombia announced
    By Kevin Bogardus – 04/06/11 12:26 PM ET

    The Obama administration has announced a renegotiated trade agreement with Colombia.

    U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk and Michael Froman, the deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs, held a noon conference call to announce an agreement on the controversial trade deal.


  76. Any counties that are in the lightest red, a Republican Senator could be vulnerable in. Whatever Kloppenburg got, you could probably add a couple percents in regard to the recall due to increased interest and there are actually people who voted for Prosser not even knowing that he is right leaning but because he is the incumbent. There hasn’t been an elected SC judge voted out of office in over 50 years in Wisconsin.

  77. I think the GOP want to use Ryan’s budget to distract from the current impasse that will lead to the shutdown because the shutdown issues will seem small – Ryan’s budget is about trillions and they’re squabbling over $30B.

    They’re up to something with the timing of the Ryan Budget release.

    Dems need to separate the two and spell out exactly what the GOP is fighting to cut NOW. They’re looking to change the subject and argue about something different.

  78. They’ll ask for bigger cuts than the amount of 73 billions democrats have agreed on.

    The Ryan proposal is so radical that the republicans are hoping their new demands of … 100, 200 billions will seem very reasonable.

    On the other hand, Ryan really BELIEVES in this joke of a budget. And others in his party do too. Maybe they’re drunk with their power, I don’t know at this point…

  79. I don’t know, I read that article and I just don’t see how all the doom and gloom people have predicted for the global economy would be triggered by this ‘shut down’. Social Security checks will still be mailed. The Post Office still runs…only a protracted shut down would effect military pay. All the essential stuff like security and air traffic and anything regarding life or death is still in place. It’s not like the government will grind to a halt. A lot of people will get furloughed, though and that will make for some problems. Hardly a worldwide meltdown.

  80. Ahh, Mr President, we want our riders and it is your fault, the American People want us to Blah, blah, blah, and Mr President, we will get a one week cr with 12 billion in cuts and fund our troops for 6 months!
    Ah Mr President, it is your fault, blah, blah, blah, insert foot.
    Suck it Mr Boner!

  81. h/t miranda@weeseeyou:

    Walker Blames Madison For Supreme Court Election

    Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) reacted Wednesday afternoon to the super-close state Supreme Court race — in which liberal-backed challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg now leads incumbent conservative Justice David Prosser, thanks to popular reaction against Walker’s anti-public employee union legislation. Walker’s response: Blame it on Madison — which he said is in a “very different world” from the majority of the state.

    WisPolitics reports:

    Gov. Scott Walker said this afternoon that the spring election results show there are “two very different worlds in this state.”

    “You’ve got a world driven by Madison, and a world driven by everybody else out across the majority of the rest of the state of Wisconsin,” Walker said at a press conference in the Capitol.




  82. Obama vows veto of House bill to kill EPA greenhouse gas rules
    By Ben Geman – 04/05/11 02:23 PM ET

    The White House is reiterating its threat to veto legislation slated to pass the House on Wednesday that would strip the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) power to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.

    “If the President is presented with this legislation, which would seriously roll back the CAA [Clean Air Act] authority, harm Americans’ health by taking away our ability to decrease carbon pollution, and undercut fuel efficiency standards that will save Americans money at the pump while decreasing our dependence on oil, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill,” states the formal “Statement of Administration Policy” released Tuesday.

  83. tbqh those seniors that were so “worried” were more “worried” (disdainful) about this president who is a person of color, named Barack Hussein Obama, and changing the comfortable (lily white) world they lived in. How dare this president want to give us ALL health care or a good education. How dare he stop the humiliation that was DADT. How dare he NOT cut their SS and medicare. *sigh” Notice in most polls those particular seniors are always most negative to POTUS Obama. They will always find something to be “worried” about, meanwhile crickets to the deliberate efforts to dismantle our great nation by the GOP and their libertarian buddies Koch Bros etc…

  84. Kloppenberg Declares Victory.

    “Supreme Court candidate JoAnne Kloppenburg declared victory Wednesday, based on results reported by the Associated Press.

    The Associated Press shows Kloppenburg received 740,090 votes and incumbent David Prosser received 739,886 votes. The margin is 204 votes”


    And here’s the response of a sore loser (taken from the comment section in the article)!

    “What a joke. Typical of a liberal to declare something before anything is official, not to mention a margin of .004%. Lets wait and see what the recount says. I’m sure she will magically have another 2-3K votes.

    Also, she has no business in this position. Prosser was a good judge that got blindsided by this liberal probaganda. Too bad more conservatives weren’t fired up over this election, or Prosser wins easy. 100% of the liberal vote was out there no doubt.”


  85. Some good news (I think) about Kloppenburg. I was surprised that some very liberal lawyers I know were down on her, and two wrote in other names yesterday, but I just learned from my husband that their objections to her were that she was far too stringent in enforcing environmental rules on small business people (I presume clients of these lawyers), thus doing what the lawyers felt was unnecessary harm to them. I have no idea whether she went overboard in these particular cases or not, but even if she did, it does not bode poorly for her performance on Wisconsin’s Supreme Court. I believe Prosser sits until August 1, and I worry that Walker’s nasty little bill will come up before the court before then.

  86. but my goodness you would think they would have their stuff together. The first donation should have been spent on proper moderation. That should be a must. I am sad by the fact they let so many trolls in. And they know its trolls. The chatter is too specific and consistant. 😦

  87. Oh really Mr. Walker? What about the several counties outside of Madison in which you sailed thru in 2010, but now went to Kloppenberg? Please, Mr. Walker, explain this to us. We are waiting.

  88. I wonder how many Dem votes they’ll pick up. Doesn’t matter as PBO will veto it.

  89. It is factually incorrect. Even some far northern counties went for Kloppenburg, and I believe the areas around Eau Claire and La Crosse did also. Do the gops live in a parallel universe?

  90. This is standrad ploy for Republican governors in WI. Try to turn the rural parts of the state against Milwaukee and Madison. He seems to forget that a good part of the state voted for Kloppenburg outside of Madison and Milwaukee. Apparently he didn’t see the map of the counties.

  91. Sheila, do you remember when they were debating the tax to build Miller Park, which would only be in Milwaukee county and the collar counties? Tommy Thompson was in northern Wisconsin urging them to vote for the tax and stick it to Milwaukee. Like I said below, standard procedure among Republicans, turn own part of the state (or country for that matter) against the other parts.

  92. The bauchus amendment and stabenow amendment to curb EPA greenhouse gasses rules, has failed! Yes. that was two democrats that offered this! Now, only two more amendments to go for the EPA bills… These are the republican bills! Cross fingers!

  93. Good. I actually looking forward to see PBO veto this one, and others too. Time to make a clear distinction between the good guys and the bad.

  94. This is interesting in case a recount would be challenged in court:
    In one twist, state law calls for Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson to appoint the state judge who would hear the case if the loser of a recount in a statewide election goes to court over the outcome. Abrahamson and Prosser have clashed on the court. Prosser’s private remark calling Abrahamson a “total bitch” was the subject of a recent political ad attacking Prosser.

  95. I agree LL. It is a case of history repeating and the “real” GOP pols know how this story ends. The WI election results have to be creating alot of angst for the House GOP. The GOP has been overreaching ever since the midterm elections. They are learning that control of the MSM has its limits and that the American people have serious “buyers remorse” that will be increased tenfold if we have a gov’t shutdown.

  96. If the shutdown issues seems small, then it will hurt the GOP (i.e., proves that they are playing games and attempting to score political points instead of governing). I think the GOP thought Ryan’s plan would have gotten a better reception. Messing with Medicare seems like a political loser to me and a huge overreach. The House GOP is clearly not ready for primetime. Ryan’s budget is a huge miscalculation that will please only teabaggers, IMO. The fact that Romney and Huckabee endorsed it is a plus, from a democrats perspective. The GOP on a nationwide basis is showing itself to be much more radical than Pres. Obama ever was. The refusal of the MSM to call these fool out on their b.s. is the only thing keeping them afloat. Whatever happened to the “jobs agenda”?

  97. It started when news was lumped in with entertainment. The early 80’s, maybe?

    When the news was expected to turn a profit like entertainment, it became less news and nothing but entertainment. Up to that point news was considered a public service, and the networks were supposed to treated it as such.

    Now journalism students learn how to market themselves instead of learning how to develop an honest story.

  98. Aw Hell, just nationalize these criminal banks. I do not intend to struggle through the last half of my life so bankers get a free ride. Makes me wonder why social conservatives are so eager to.

  99. His plan will increase suicides. No money, no healthcare, bills high enough to deprive your children of an inheritance, will leave some to consider a “noble sacrifice”. Or is this just a plan to force seniors into the arms of churches for their charity?

  100. You’re so right Liberal Librarian and EricFive. Boehner’s painted himself into a corner with the Tea Party candidates who don’t want to compromise. Now, he doesn’t know what to do, trying to pull a rabbit out of his hat with this move to avoid blame. Good luck with that!

    “(CNN) – House Speaker John Boehner said Wednesday that the House of Representatives will vote on a short-term government funding bill that cuts spending by $12 billion and funds the Pentagon for the remainder of the current fiscal year.”

    “Democrats have expressed strong opposition to such a measure.”


  101. I wouldn’t exactly call it a win given the rhetoric Trump has been spewing about the POTUS. Seems like they’re replacing one unhinged individual for another.

  102. You know what I like the best about this? They didn’t care about what the PL, media, or talking heads had to say…they just went out and did what they had to do.

    Go Wisconsin!

  103. Note: This story originated on Rumormiller which is s NOT a news site. It’s a site meant to spur discussion often through satire. Regardless of whether or not this story is true, it’s safe to say it’s not a stretch from how the Republican’s view the poor and middle class. Source: http://www.redesign.rumormiller.com/story.php?title=boehner-the-poor-and-lazy-caused-current-crisis-1


  104. I know. I was watching the results and finally gave up and went to sleep, sad. I woke up expecting headlines to read Prosser won. I’m pretty surprised but don’t want to get my hopes up quite yet.

    I have my fingers crossed, though!

  105. She was an excellent choice. I always said she’d make a great WH Press Secretary but her new gig as DNC Chair is the next best thing. I really love her.

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