SOTU Open Thread (3)

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  1. Okey, am done with cnn. Bergen and the righties are just only criticizing the sotu. F them.

  2. I thought the speech was terrific. Very inspiring. Methinks the smart repubs will pass on 2012 and wait until 2016. That was probably Christie’s thinking when he turned down chance to give the rebuttal.

  3. Chris Matthews was touched by magic Obama dust when he had lunch with the President (and other news anchors) today, for a preview of the SOTU! Yee-haw!

  4. “That one” is my president and I support him without qualifiers….

    Fired up and ready to GOTV! 2012 will be here before you know it….

  5. The speech was wonderful. I dont give a damn what the pundits try to peddle, I aint buying.

  6. I loved watching the SOTU on the White House web site.

    Thanks to BWD for letting us know about it.

    The past couple of years, I had watched on C-SPAN.

    I liked how the White House had 60% of the screen for the President & 40% of the screen for charts/graphs/pictures to explain in greater detail what the President was talking about.

    When billions & trillions are part of the dialogue, I need charts & graphs!

  7. could only stomach a few minutes of the post game on msnbc. I see they didn’t even bother to bring in a righty because they had plenty of lefties who were gonna take shots at the President.
    Matthews was having another “tingle down the leg” moment & O’Donnell was unimpressed, so it must have been a great speech.
    Love my President!

  8. Gergen hasn’t said a damn positive about the President I think ever. CNN is useless because the pundits just come on to play their roles. It’s theatre.

  9. I was pretty smart, for the republican response, I went and took my shower, couldnt listen to lies and what I hear, I did the right thing to skip it.

  10. CNN Flash Poll: Reaction to the Speech:: 52% Very positive, 32% Somewhat positive, 15% Negative.

    Will Obama’s Policies Move Country in Right Direction? Before Speech: Y 61% N 37%; After Speech: Y 77% N 18%.

  11. But, where is the substance???!!!!

    Well, here:

    Investment in government-funded research and technology

    Investment in infrastructure, repairing crumbling roads and bridges

    1 million electric vehicles on the road by 2015.

    Eliminate billions in taxpayer dollars subsidies for oil companies.

    By 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources.

    Within 25 years, give 80% of Americans access to high-speed rail

    Investment in education, including replacing No Child Left Behind and preparing 100,000 new teachers in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and math.

    Strengthen and protect Social Security for future generations.

    Eliminate tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans

    Strengthen health care law to increase affordability and reduce costs.

    Reduce the deficit by $400 billion over 10 years.

    Simplify the tax code for businesses by eliminating loopholes and and for individuals to make it more fair.

    Set a goal of doubling our exports by 2014

    DREAM Act and comprehensive immigration reform

    Bring all the troops home from Iraq this year.

    Begin withdrawal from Afghanistan in July.

  12. I am convinced O’Donnell is green with envy because “when he was a senate staffer” — or whatever he was — he did not work for someone as exciting and brilliant as President Obama.

    Remember when he was loud and positive that President Obama would not get health care reform passed. Well, he did and O’Donnell has been green with envy ever since.

    Too bad.

  13. See the pundits don’t speak for the people. David Gergen felt stupid when he talked about the Tucson speech and it turned out to be a hit.People are waking up to games being played by the media and pundits.

  14. Yeeepy, the pundits can go eat crow. We the people liked what our Prez had to say. And ODonell on msnbc, shut up alreay. You sound petty.

  15. Steve Benen at The Washington Monthly has a good review:

    ” I’m struck by how different a speech it was than most of the modern SOTU addresses. White House officials had made it clear that they intended to avoid the laundry-list approach that’s become the hallmark of these addresses, and it worked.

    The key takeaway, at least at first blush, is the scope of the president’s vision. Remember George H.W. Bush lamenting the fact that he lacked “the vision thing”? We received a powerful reminder tonight that Barack Obama has no such problem.

    The usual model for a speech like this is to hear a president explain to Congress what he expects from lawmakers over the next year. The president is clearly thinking well beyond the next 12 months, asking policymakers to consider the next decade and generation, and presented a compelling map for how to get from here to there.

    It wasn’t the kind of inspirational speech we heard in Tucson two weeks ago, but it’s not supposed to be. The notion of a “moving” or “emotional” or “exciting” State of the Union is almost a contradiction in terms….”

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_01/027699.php

  16. Just wanted to say that I watched the speech with a bunch of OFA folks in a bar in Rockville, MD – there were about 60 people there, lots more than I expected (because there was another venue in Bethesda and Tim Kaine was coming to that one). Anyway, besides loving the speech and how it made me so proud to be American – I really felt that people are re-energized about Obama. I never ever lost faith but we know some people were not so keen in recent months. But I feel they are coming back, there’s something in the air.

  17. Thank you, thank you BWD. What in the hell was O’Donell listening to? I thought the Prez spoke in Engllish, so what the hell is he yapping abt? Everything was in there like you BWD has highlighted now what more did he want. Ofcos its Obama, thus he has to really do twice as hard to ever be appreciated. These so called PLs piss me off even more than the teabaggers coz you would assume they know better. Unbelievable.

  18. I liked nearly everything about this SOTU. Get big oil “yesterdays energy” off the payroll! But what is up with Lawrence O??? Wish MSNBC had only let Rachel, Chris and Eugene do the pre and post speech stuff.

  19. I think that they were thinking to themselves, “How could this skinny black guy with the funny sounding name accomplish what no other president was able to accomplish?” They seemed to dismiss him immediately, so now they’re having to eat crow because PBO has turned out to be quite an impressive politician who finds ways to be successful in spite of all of the fore, and back, ground noise. While they were speculating and criticizing, he stayed focused on his goal and delivered the goods.

  20. They are floundering in leftblogtopia. A quick perusal revealed “It was too long” as the major complaint.

    I never worry about when our POTUS speaks. Never. Just enjoy…

    Logging off. Thanks BWD and everyone!

  21. It was a very good speech. Our president continues to turn expectations around about what he “should” say and when he finishes saying what he does, the public is nodding along in agreement with him and shaking their heads at all those pundits who were advocating for some speech they wouldn’t have wanted to hear.

    I predict another bump in the polls after this. People are not as afraid as they were a year ago and many are finally listening to the president for the first time. And now they are seeing what has always been there – an intelligent, caring, deeply thoughtful person who shares their values and their goals for this country who is nothing like what the media has been telling them he is.

  22. Wow!

    I’m so glad that this site exists. I , by habit, made a stop at another site and it was the Twilight Zone of left-wing haters.

    Tonight President Obama demonstrated to Romney, Huuckabee, Palin, and the rest that they aren’t likely to win.

    Sadly, unlike 08, we must now open and fight on a Left Front because some self-announced check-writers do not want President Obama to win. In their minds, making a few phone calls every 4 years makes them special and exceptional. Sound familiar?

    Bravo! To Obama/Biden tonight. They looked like winners tonight and I have to think that down deep,Republican strategists know they’re going to lose.

    Now how do he win back control of the Congress? That is what I want to see discussed.

  23. Lawrence loves to be the contrarian.

    I;m just glad they haven’t given Cenk even more face time. His show clearly belongs on Fox.

  24. Been there, voted on all the polls. From what I’ve seen, Fox is the only mainstream (in the most generous sense of that word) website where the president’s speech was viewed unfavorably. Go figure.

  25. hehe…someone tweeted this on my timeline:

    RT @BorowitzReport: To tweet about the President’s speech, use #SOTU To tweet about Michele Bachmann’s response, use #STFU

  26. thanks bwd.. for hosting and posting- much appreciated. Loved the speech, far-reaching and Large and concrete.

    And really like the picture of all the young pages reaching out to shake hands with Mr. President- future congressfolk there.. they’ll remember this gentleman and how he inspired them to lead.

  27. Thanks for this, BWD.

    I wish he’d mentioned the Gulf of Mexico.

    I sure miss KO on the reviews …

  28. Just had to check the action at GOS. SOTU comment thread was a tomb. Sounded like six college students having a drinking game as they drew mustaches on old Obama posters. Sad and pointless. Irrelevancy has arrived.

  29. Yup. That SOTU comment thread over there was dead indicating the sane people have fled that site.

  30. I dont doubt you at all because this is such a real statement. Its like they have blinders on and simply cant take them off. Really no matter what. Coverage of the shooting was the exact same on CNN. I no longer watch at all.

  31. He’s been in the President’s corner at times. I think they pick one person to be the “devil’s advocate”, and this time it was O’Donnell. But there’s a big, huge possibility I’m wrong. :)

  32. That thought crossed my mind too. They draw straws to see who will be the cynic this time. No business like show business.

  33. If anyone believed that President Obama would scale down his vision for America’s future or be intimidated by Republican gains in Congress – they found out tonight what this President is made of! How incredibly lucky we are to have this gifted and dedicated man leading us at a time when new ideas and a renewed spirit of optimism are so crucial to our success as a nation. His sincerity and strength of character always come through when he shares his vision with the American people. What is so striking about his speeches is the complete absence of self-indulgence and pettiness. He is as generous to his opponents as they are mean-spirited towards him. He truly believes in democratic principles (with a small “d”) and in our ability to overcome our differences by expressing diverse opinions and seeking out that core of substance on which we can all agree. We can only pray that he will be our President for the full eight years.

  34. Beautifully stated hgerhard. I’ll just add, we can pray AND work darn hard to make it so.. ;)

  35. A friend of mine emailed that it wasn’t a SOTU address, it was a STFU address ;-).

  36. Get it POTUS!! Just read this over at the orange place cause I don’t feel like searching around the net. I had a great night and don’t want to read or hear anything from the always hating pundits. The people have spoken.

    CBS Polling: 92% Overwhelming positive response to SOTU Hotlist!!!
    CBS’s Anthony Mason says viewers polled were “overwhelmingly positive” ; said Obama gained 27 points in approval on plans for economy…

    Washington (CNN) – A majority of Americans who watched President Obama’s State of the Union address said they had a very positive reaction to his speech.
    A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey indicated that 52 percent of speech watchers had a very positive reaction, with 32 percent saying they had a somewhat positive response and 15 percent with a negative response.

  37. On the other hand, he was very candid in admitting he cried when HCR passed the House that famous night.

    I wouldn’t be so harsh on Laurence. I don’t think that he’s green with envy. I think that working in Washington has made him cynical.

  38. Agreed, sherijr! Work all day and say our prayer at night. I will definitely work for President Obama’s reelection starting now.

  39. I loved the speech. The tone was serious and yet light is some areas. He talked about education, energy, immigration, the war in afgan. I liked that he used humor when he talked about reducing areas of our government and when he discussed transportation.

    I loved his emphasis on education, especially asking young undecided folks to choose a teaching career.

    My favorite analogy was “removing the engine of the plane, which might reduce weight at first, But very soon you’ll feel the impact of that decision. (Boehner cringed when he said that)

    What I like most about the speech was that it made me feel calm and I think sets the tone for civil discussion, and I think it helps the country to feel calmer, because the president has a plan, and a specific things to move this country forward. I am feeling pretty good :)

    BWD thank you so much for the open thread

  40. I had fun co-hosting a watch party. Biggest applause line was when he spoke about cutting oil subsidies and called oil the energy of the past.

    I don’t watch television so I had never heard about that small company with the drilling technology that save the Chilean miners…very impressive. I liked the President underscoring that ‘we do big things’ in this country. That’s my America.

    Loved his digs on not privatizing SS, the tax cuts for the rich and digging the Regressives about being serious about cutting the deficit means more than cutting discretionary spending.

    Loved the comments about the Salmon. Don’t know if there are supposed to be any laugh lines in a SOTU, but his sense of humor was unexpected and charming.

    Wonder how streamlining government doesn’t equal losing jobs though. Want to learn more about that.

    Very very good speech…didn’t pull any punches, didn’t pander to the crowd…nicely done. Love our Prez.

  41. I love the Matthew tingle, but Lawrence did not get his gun moment. I am sure he was upset.

    I was mostly interested in the fact that Rachel and Lawrence were in a bit of a power struggle. Rachel should have earned Big KOs place but Lawrence got it.

  42. Wow, bgerhard…that’s one of the best written, thoughtful comments I’ve ever read on a blog. Thank you.

  43. a fantastic and unifying speech.

    WINNING THE FUTURE!

    GOD Bless President OBAMA!

    GOD Bless the United States of America!

  44. He is petty. At times he can be insightful, but
    at other times he uses his “I was an important person” role, makes him a little unbearable.

    Again, the President did not acknowledge the gun issue. Lawrence made it clear yesterday that it was going to be a critical issue for him.

  45. Was an overwhelming address. I’ll never get to sleep tonight.

    Thanks for all the stills blackwaterdog. I can’t get over some of them, especially the one of the supremely intelligent little Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg being engulfed in an Obama hug.

    Love you bwd!

  46. He was amazing, wasn’t he BWD? I am having a hard time thinking of any President in our history that has the smarts, personality and ability to deliver so much. I admit, I am only in my late 60s, but this man brings it all.

  47. hehe..

    RT @TheNewDeal: Rep. Eddie Munster Wants a Private Option to Social Security While Denying You a Public Option in Healthcare #p2 #tcot #sotu

  48. O’Donnell pre-announced that he was going to pan the speech unless Obama talked about gun control. Obama plans to address that important issue in a separate speech. I think he wanted this one to be unifying. Nothing sets the rt. wing off as much as any talk of gun control. When any sort of gun issue is mentioned on my local newspaper website, there are 500 comments within minutes. And I’m in blue Illinois. Somewhere along the way they became convinced that someone—Obama?—-was going to knock on their door one day and grab all their guns—and their Bibles. I understand completely why he wouldn’t want to get into that in tonight’s speech and why he wanted to address it separately.
    I thought it was a great speech, laying it all one the line. We need to finally put petty politics aside and work together, and if we do, the sky’s the limit. We’ve wasted so much time and energy on the nasty. We all need to try to follow Obama’s example—-and go stand with him on the adult side.

  49. As the economy continues to grow, then job losses in the public sector can be absorbed by new job opportunities in the private sector.

  50. Just received an email from the Presient

    Dear Starm

    Tonight I addressed the American people on the future we face together.

    Though at times it may seem uncertain, it is a future that is ours to decide, ours to define, and ours to win.

    I know we will.

    Because, after the worst recession in decades, we see an economy growing again.

    Because, after two years of job losses, we’ve added private-sector jobs for 12 straight months — more than 1 million in all.

    Because, time after time, when our resolve has been tested, we, as a nation, have always prevailed.

    Overcoming the challenges we face today requires a new vision for tomorrow. We will move forward together, or not at all — for the challenges we face are bigger than party, and bigger than politics.

    Yet the story of America is this: We do big things.

    Just as the progress of the past two years would not have been possible without your hard work, we will not realize the agenda I described tonight without you.

    So as we continue this great mission together, and we set out the plans for how far we can go, I need to know that you are ready to work side by side with me once more.

    Will you stand with me as we strive to win the future?

    The last two years have been marked by unprecedented reforms and historic progress.

    But there is much more work to do.

    Moving forward, America’s economic growth at home is inextricably connected to our competitiveness in the global community. The more products American companies can export, the more jobs we can create at home.

    This vision for the future starts with innovation, tapping into the creativity and imagination of our people to create the jobs and industries of the future. Instead of subsidizing yesterday’s energy, let’s invest in tomorrow’s. It’s why I challenged Congress to join me in setting a new goal: By 2035, 80 percent of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources.

    It means leading the world in educating our kids, giving each of our children the best opportunity to succeed and preparing them for the jobs of tomorrow.

    We must build a 21st century infrastructure for our country, putting millions of Americans to work rebuilding roads and bridges and expanding high-speed Internet and high-speed rail.

    We must reform government, making it leaner, smarter, and more transparent.

    And we must take responsibility for our shared debt, reining in our long-term deficit so we can afford the investments we need to move our country forward.

    That is the vision I laid out tonight. That is how we win the future.

    It is going to take a lot of work — but I have no doubt we are up to the task.

    Half a century ago, when the Soviets beat us into space with the launch of a satellite called Sputnik, we had no idea how we’d beat them to the moon. The science wasn’t there yet. NASA didn’t even exist.

    But after investing in better research and education, we didn’t just surpass the Soviets. We unleashed a wave of innovation that created new industries and millions of new jobs.

    This is our generation’s Sputnik moment.

    Please stand together with me:

    http://my.barackobama.com/WintheFuture

    It is because of each of you, who define the will of a people, that the state of our union is strong in the face of tough challenges. You are the reason our future is still bright in the face of deep uncertainty.

    And you are the reason I believe that future is ours to win.

    Thank you,

    Barack

  51. Mr. President sending out emails- have his back folks:

    We do big things
    From: Barack Obama View Contact

    ——————————————————————————–

    Sheri —

    Tonight I addressed the American people on the future we face together.

    Though at times it may seem uncertain, it is a future that is ours to decide, ours to define, and ours to win.

    I know we will.

    Because, after the worst recession in decades, we see an economy growing again.

    Because, after two years of job losses, we’ve added private-sector jobs for 12 straight months — more than 1 million in all.

    Because, time after time, when our resolve has been tested, we, as a nation, have always prevailed.

    Overcoming the challenges we face today requires a new vision for tomorrow. We will move forward together, or not at all — for the challenges we face are bigger than party, and bigger than politics.

    Yet the story of America is this: We do big things.

    Just as the progress of the past two years would not have been possible without your hard work, we will not realize the agenda I described tonight without you.

    So as we continue this great mission together, and we set out the plans for how far we can go, I need to know that you are ready to work side by side with me once more.

    Will you stand with me as we strive to win the future?

    The last two years have been marked by unprecedented reforms and historic progress.

    But there is much more work to do.

    Moving forward, America’s economic growth at home is inextricably connected to our competitiveness in the global community. The more products American companies can export, the more jobs we can create at home.

    This vision for the future starts with innovation, tapping into the creativity and imagination of our people to create the jobs and industries of the future. Instead of subsidizing yesterday’s energy, let’s invest in tomorrow’s. It’s why I challenged Congress to join me in setting a new goal: By 2035, 80 percent of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources.

    It means leading the world in educating our kids, giving each of our children the best opportunity to succeed and preparing them for the jobs of tomorrow.

    We must build a 21st century infrastructure for our country, putting millions of Americans to work rebuilding roads and bridges and expanding high-speed Internet and high-speed rail.

    We must reform government, making it leaner, smarter, and more transparent.

    And we must take responsibility for our shared debt, reining in our long-term deficit so we can afford the investments we need to move our country forward.

    That is the vision I laid out tonight. That is how we win the future.

    It is going to take a lot of work — but I have no doubt we are up to the task.

    Half a century ago, when the Soviets beat us into space with the launch of a satellite called Sputnik, we had no idea how we’d beat them to the moon. The science wasn’t there yet. NASA didn’t even exist.

    But after investing in better research and education, we didn’t just surpass the Soviets. We unleashed a wave of innovation that created new industries and millions of new jobs.

    This is our generation’s Sputnik moment.

    Please stand together with me:

    http://my.barackobama.com/WintheFuture

    It is because of each of you, who define the will of a people, that the state of our union is strong in the face of tough challenges. You are the reason our future is still bright in the face of deep uncertainty.

    And you are the reason I believe that future is ours to win.

    Thank you,

    Barack

  52. I started out at an OFA get together, but there were so many doubters there. I started arguing with a woman who said she was so let down. I thought, why are you here?

    I do think at times, some people have to feel that they are not beholden or feel about Obama as strongly as some of us do. It is the old idea of holding his feet to the fire. I get it, but I could not deny what this President has been able to accomplish.

    Our man is a champion.

  53. “They are finally listening”. I think you got it right. His consistency, his calmness and his unrelenting plea for common sense and civility are finally getting some traction.

    I dare hope that more and more people will tire of the constant negativity of both the GOP and the media.

  54. Sure. But not tonight. And of all pundits, he should know what the SOTU is supposed to be about.

    He wanted gun control in the speech. He said he would be disappointed if he didn’t hear it.

    Come on Lawrence. If he had made gun control a part of this speech, that’s all anyone would be talking about. It would have sucked the air out of the national conversation.

    Then in a few days would Lawrence be bitching that he didn’t talk enough about jobs?

    Lawrence is usually pretty good so I’m not drawing any big conclusions about his myopia tonight.

    There was nowhere to go tonight to get decent punditry. Absolutely nowhere.

  55. I didn’t think so at first, but now I think Cenk’s going to crash and burn. He is completely outrageous.

  56. Well my OFA SOTU home event was great!! I had 38 people show up! I was expecting like 20, but instead got more!!

    We all got cosy and crammed into my living room :-)

    We had some very interesting discussions and of course this wasn’t the end.

    It seems the key themes from our brainstorming were:

    1. Communication/Raising awareness on big issues/fighting lies and mis-information

    2. Volunteering – helping others/reaching out

    It was wonderful to have a broad, diverse group of people. We had people of all ages, races, and backgrounds.

    People were very engaged in the discussions, and what was even more encouraging, many people who were there, didn’t consider themselves political, and so had never gotten involved before, but now they are feeling encouraged to get active politically.

    I’m enjoying reading what everyone was up to during the SOTU!

  57. Outstanding summation!! to an OUTSTANDING SOTU!!! BWD, you’re such an asset to this Nation and our President. Thank you.

  58. This is excellent news, especially heading into the election activities. Thanks for hosting the watch party!

  59. NPR’s word cloud summarizes people’s responses to the SOTU. Some of the big ones are “inspiring”, “future”, “hopeful”, “education”. But the biggest of all is … “SALMON”. This was the biggest for all groups: independents, R’s and D’s!

  60. O’Donnell is clinging to the idea that Bill Clinton was a better president than Barack Obama. So, he gets testy when there is too much praise for Obama. He’s still bitter that Obama passed healthcare while Clinton failed.

  61. Yet, yet another good news from Russia.

    Russia’s parliament has given its backing to the Start nuclear arms disarmament treaty.

    The Federation Council (upper house) unanimously approved the deal signed by US President Barack Obama and Russia’s Dmitry Medvedev in April 2010.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/world-europe-12284532

    Note the word “unanimously”.

  62. The whole problem with the pundits like O’Donnell they are use to calling the moves on a checker board of politics.But we have a President that is a Chess Master who looks to far ahead for them to understand.That is why Our President wins when they all say He can’t.All you have to do look at what he got out of a Lame duck Congress when they said he couldn’t.So we all must support Our President in every way we can.

  63. Dammit, I was waiting for him to destroy social security like it said in all the trailers :)

    Critics: Obama will end social security! Run for the hills! Crisis, Baldrick, crisis!

    Obama: We will maintain and improve social security.

    Critics: …
    (crickets chirping)
    (tumbleweed)

    Critics: Oh right! We did such a good job of making Obama not end social security!

    It’s not even as if this is the first time. Remember this?

    Obama: We will end DADT with legislation.

    Critics: Can’t be done! He’s punting on the issue! Long grass! Obama supports DADT and hates gay people!

    Obama: This is me signing the legislative repeal of DADT.

    Critics: …
    (coyote howls in the distance)
    Critics: … we give you no credit.

  64. I watched the speech and loved every line of it, and now this morning I have read every comment and loved every one of them. Thank you so much BWD for providing the venue. Looked at every poll and the news is great. The Man gave us a masterpiece of a speech.

  65. Agreed; he was one of the few people with any sense during the tax cut deal as well. He’s had some moments in which he’s correct, and some in which he’s incorrect. I skip the pundits at this point because I feel that I can think for myself and they seem to offer more drama than insight. But I agree with you about O’Donnell.

  66. Beautiful, thanks! A home run.

    I think it’s funny they keep calling it “Kennedy-esque” or “Reagan-esque” or even “Martin Luther King-esque.”

    In fact, it was “Obama-esque.”

    Republicans don’t want no parts of this in 2012. LOL!

  67. Good morning
    I heard Howard Dean before the speech praising it. He said it hit all the right points. I like Howard and love having him stand up to the lefties.
    This morning I tried to listen to NPR They found a whole bunch of people on both sides to pan it. No positive remarks just the usual hate from the right and “it didnt go far enough” from the left. Sherrod Brown was the only one who liked it….

  68. Thank you, Faith. You’re right, it would have been a mistake for the President to mention gun control in this speech. Sounds like LO was looking for something, anything, to dislike in the speech.

  69. It’s purity politics. And frankly, I’m pretty surprised and *extremely* disappointed that O’Donnell chose to engage in this type of sophistry. Because he got the tax cut deal right and has demonstrated that he has some sense. But purity politics goes something like this: set a random or impossible standard; if real life events of course do not match that standard, trash those events no matter how good. Thus one of the most progressive WHs in history can thus be painted as a selloutprostitutionwhore. It’s a pretty ridiculous and negative manner of politicking, but it is what it is. Sorry to see O’Donnell engaging in these ridiculous shenanigans.

    The picture which is emerging is one of people who see their media platforms as not something which necessitates a great deal of care and responsibility, but something which has *power* and thus hostage games can be played with this POTUS: “do this or I’ll tell my viewers/readership that you stink.” This period in history will go down as one of the best in terms of the WH, but one of the absolute worst in terms of a few portions of the national media.

  70. Thanks for this video. She is my senator, and really disappointed me during the tax cut deal (to be honest, I thought that Caroline Kennedy should have been appointed to this senate seat). But Gillibrand’s remarks in this video represent a really positive, intelligent analysis presented in common sense fashion. Two thumbs up.

  71. NPR is so afraid of being pilloried as liberal that it typically presents the GOP viewpoint. I’ve switched to online news like BBC, al jazeera and Reuters. Loved the speech and love this site! Thanks BWD.

  72. gn, well said. The real problem with the pundits is that they think the American public needs them to know how to think and how to assess anything. Their view is that the American public would be lost without them. That being said, let’s face it, no one here is going to agree all the time with everything any pundit says, or even with each other on every little issue. I gave an instant reaction on the previous thread, but will give my own analysis later so all of you know what to really think about the speech. :)

  73. Regarding the “too long” complaint. If I didn’t have a clock right over the TV I would never have realized that he spoke for an hour. I have heard 20 minute sermons in church that seemed to drag on more than the SOTU.

  74. Okay, as promised upthread, I will now do my best pundit impression so all of you know what you really should think.

    On the whole, I really think it was a good speech. It was not inspirational, uplifting, etc, and it shouldn’t have been. It was what it needed to be, both a call to action and a challenge to everybody to get your act together and work on the problems facing us.

    He slapped Mitch McConnell right at the beginning by saying what is important right now is not to focus on winning the next election, but to work for the American people. (I wish they had shown McConnell’s face when he said that.)

    His talk about a freeze in domestic spending was a direct challenge to the Republicans. Remember that he has no power to freeze domestic spending, Congress dictates the spending not the president.

    In terms of Social Security, he made it clear that the key is to strengthen, not demolish, SS and there was no way he was going to allow any privitization.

    He laid the groundwork for 2012 by bringing up the tax cuts for the wealthy. He is ready to make it a campaign issue, like it should have been last year.

    Didn’t particularly like the “clean coal” line, because I really don’t think such a thing exists, but it was something he had to include. But he hit the right chord in talking about clean energy needing the help, not the very wealthy oil companies.

    The comment about earmarks was very interesting. I have no problems with earmarks, nor do I think Obama does. But this was a major issue, so he is calling the bluff of the tea-party. “You don’t want earmarks, you won’t get them. See how you like them apples.”

    Like his approach to education, though I thought there might be a little more about dealing with poor quality teachers, though, againm, not surprised he didn’t bring it up at this time.

    One of my favorite things about this man is that he is big on personal responsibility and the responsibility of parents in raising their kids. Goes totally against the “nanny state” meme generated by the republicans.

    Regarding the malpractice insurance and tort reform. I think we all know thqat this is not a real major part of health care costs, but he is setting up a trap. This is one of those things that has always been viewed as within the purview of the states. He is challenging the Republicans to override “state’s rights” with this. In doing so, they lose the high ground in using “states’ rights arguments in the future.

    Finally, he destroyed the GOP talking points about his not thinking the US is great.

    So, although I probably would have liked some other things in the speech, I think it was a speech that fulfilled the prupose he had for it. Challenge, frustrate, set up for 2012, and sell the public on a vision for the future.

  75. Fantastic recap – I like your analysis particularly regarding tea party bluff on earmarks and states rights regarding tort reform. I hadn’t thought of that angle but it makes perfect sense.

    I’m glad he’s in the middle – he got the liberal legislation through these past 2 years and now imho, he needs to govern more from the middle as; a) that’s where most Americans are, b) that’s the only way progress will be made with a divided Congress, and c)that’s the only way to get the Independent votes back for 2012.

  76. The President is right where he has always been. Go back and listen to the speeches he made when he was running. Cspan has a collection, just listen to what he said then and what he has done and what he is saying he wants to do now.

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